That's exactly what I'm saying - I understand the problem, it just makes -zero- sense no matter how you look at it. They're letting problem players walk because they just create another account to troll on? Instead of being forced, like me, to change their ways? Sure, they get to that point, eventually, but how is that fair to a player like me that has long since been there, done that, and changed because of it? This player was allowed to be a ****** for twice as long as I was. I guess I'm just not smart and sneaky enough to want to get by this broken system... but here I am, playing again, minus my previous attitude. Minus the money I spent on the account.

It didn't take much for me to get the point. Why is my other account still suspended? Is it fair? No, it isn't.

You still getting around the broken system in a way. Once you permabanned, if you have been, Riot don't want you playing their game anymore.

Not true. I had the argument with the last Riot rep when the deed happened, and he said "You're welcome to create another account and play".

Fast forward 2 years, and I'm here on a new account, receiving tons of positive votes. But still, we're getting past the fact that said professional and popular player received 8 suspensions before being banned, vs. my 3, and the 3 most others player probably get.

I'm basically arguing that the system needs to be standarized, and that everyone banned up until this point needs to be given a reprieve so that they are allowed to change their actions. Permanently banning one player after 3 strikes, and then letting another walk for 7, is simply not fair to the majority that don't abuse this system. They're rewarding players for getting around the Tribunal, and punishing those severely that just "stick to it".

If said player using multiple accounts is found out to have trolled across all of them to get by this system, has received more than 3 suspensions total, then he needs to be immediately banned from the game on all of those accounts, and thereby forced to create a new one without visits to the Tribunal. That's the only way this "mistake" will be made right.

If I understand you correctly, your complaint is essentially that it's not fair that the system contains a loophole that people can exploit by creating multiple accounts and playing on all of them. How is this worse than the "exploit" of having one account, being abusive on it until you get permabanned, then making a new account? In the latter case, you lose all of your champs and skins; in the former case, you spend most of your time playing on alternate accounts where you don't have access to your main's champs and skins.

The standard progression right now is 5 punishments, not 3. I don't know what it was 2 years ago,but now it's:

Warning, 3 day, 7 day, 14 day, perma.

And a single account can have more than 5 punishments, because if a player shows signs of improvement, they can hold at a step or even back up one or two.

As for the "You're welcome to create another account" Lyte was just mentioning how his group (PB&J) is trying to make sure that CSRs never say that, since it's not true. However, in a big company, getting that message to everyone can be challenging.

And IWD got ALL his smurfs permabanned after his main did, no more salary pay, and suspended from pro playing for a year. I think that's harsher than normal players.

It only took 8 visits to the Tribunal for it, too.

Was given no such warning. Saying your going to be suspended is one thing, banned for 100 years is another. Anyone can show signs of improvement AFTER such ban, but they still won't unban your account.

True, no access to unlocked champs, but that's not a big issue if you just want to troll.

I'm talking about how the Tribunal works now, not about how it worked two years ago when you were banned. If Riot redesigns the entire Tribunal (which they have, several times) then applies the new rules to everyone, including professional players, how is that favoring professional players?

Guys, this dude just refuses to listen to reason. Let it go.

@ Arushni: It's not always easy for Riot to tell when two accounts are linked. In fact, unless the person is really popular or just plain stupid, it's probably nearly impossible to tell. There is no fix for this. Therefore, expecting Riot to always ban smurfs when they ban the main account is absurd: There's simply no way to catch all the smurfs if the person is even a little bit clever.

The only "special" treatment pro players get is in even harsher penalties than non-professional players get. Get over yourself, dude.