i wish there was no report for being unskilled, so people would stop complaining about the skill of their teammates, and just play.

Apparently this wong guy is either completely retarded or a very poor troll.

What is he even talking about?

Oh well, fanboytards will be fanboytards.

Why the hell are you capitalizing the t and not the a? You don't capitalize minor words; a, the, or, of, etc.

Dude, you're the one who's fallen to using bulls-hit and lies to promote league of legends. All I'm doing is proving that you're full of S-hit with evidence and that makes me the fanboy? I'm not even promoting a game here, you are, and with LIES no less. =.=; Don't try and shift positions now. I haven't even started my train of Ad Homs, you disrespectful deceitful creationist. You say that DotA is more snowbally than LoL. Many people have provided evidence to completely debunk that claim. What was your response? Not giving a S-hit, move to another thread and continue saying the same thing. You're a bigger fanboy than ANYONE here. And ironically... you've proven yourself to be a tard, which I'll explain throughout this reply.

Ethos -> 'Ethos (pron.: /ˈiːθɒs/ or /ˈiːθoʊs/) is a Greek word meaning "character" that is used to describe the guiding beliefs or ideals that characterize a community, nation, or ideology. In this case you're trying create a character for yourself that looks like what you are saying is not total bulls-hit by stating that you're an experienced gamer. Unfortunately you don't have the ethos to claim that. What's even worse is your claims contradict one another as I've stated in the earlier post.

Pathos -> Pathos (pron.: /ˈpeɪθɵs/; plural: patha or pathea; Greek: πάθος, for "suffering" or "experience;" adjectival form: 'pathetic' from παθητικός) represents an appeal to the audience's emotions. This is what you're doing when you're using namecalling tactics. Fanboy? You mean providing evidence to debunk your bulls-hit? Wait, were you not the one who's reduced to using bulls-hit lies to promote league of legends? I'm not the one who's using lies to promote a game, you are. I'm not even here promoting a game. I'm here pointing out your bulls-hit and that makes me a fanboy? What? Does everyone who prove that you're a liar a fanboy? I wasn't notified that the meaning had changed. ^_~
By the way, the particular pathos you're using is called Ad Hom.

Logos -> Logos (pron.: /ˈloʊɡɒs/, UK /ˈlɒɡɒs/, or US /ˈloʊɡoʊs/; Greek: λόγος, from λέγω lego "I say") is an important term in philosophy, psychology, rhetoric, and religion. Originally a word meaning "a ground", "a plea", "an opinion", "an expectation", "word," "speech," "account," "reason,"[1][2] it became a technical term in philosophy, beginning with Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BC), who used the term for a principle of order and knowledge. This encompasses reason, logic, evidence, facts, and the like... also you don't have in your argument or seem to care.

All of this is basic if you paid a little attention to either your english teacher, or your history teacher. I drop a few basic words and you're already so confused. Maybe you should stop spending your time on the forums and some time studying, little boy. It's kinda pathetic that I'm talking to someone with such low intelligence... Every time you reply, it becomes slightly more clear on just exactly how uneducated you are. First your name, then your techniques of argumentation, followed by your reliance to pathos, your failure to use ethos, and finally a total absence of logos. That's really bad... You need to go back to school man. You don't even know the names of the techniques you use when you're presenting your argument.

Edit : By the way, sorry about the wall of text. It's called evidence based reasoning. It's that thing where all of science and everything it brings, which includes games like league of legends as well as the medicine you use to survive, is ultimately based off of. You confused uneducated silly child. I don't mean to offend you with those adjectives. You are after all, as you stated, confused as to what I'm talking about. You are after all, uneducated since you are confused about the simple basic words I used. And you must be a child because you haven't figured out google can be used as a dictionary, or retarded. Fanboy + Tard. Ironic, isn't it? Not that I'm calling anyone a fanboytard, but you do fit the required definition for one.

To throw dOTa fans off

@wwong3,

I find the discussion between you and Jesus quite amusing. Jesus doesn't like that a surrender is missing from DotA and you apparently like it because you don't believe it is needed.

The interesting thing is you present evidence to your argument as fact when it is simply a reason why you have the opinion on why a surrender is not needed. It is your observation that every game will play out a certain way based off of team composition. I guess you are the authority on DotA but your description of the game play sounds quite redundant and boring. Maybe they hold the interest of players by allowing custom skins and different voices.

Speaking of boring and redundant I know Jesus went all fanboy but at least that pertains to a bias about the game...you just went all at the man in personal attacks. I guess you think everyone that disagrees with you is ignorant but why would you say a theory is not a theory? Do you believe everyone assumes theory equals quess? I suppose if you plead with the forum enough they may believe nobody knows what is going on. You seem smart enough to know that even the most widely accepted theories are seldom right or wrong in an absolute sense, which places your faith in evolution as an absolute a tad hypocritical..

I like dota for the simple fact there is no gay ass meta like in league.

I wish players in LoL were more open minded... its kind of why I like watching Phantoml0rd, he doesn't cry and threaten dodge at the sight of an unconventional pick.

I am guessing as DotA ramps up and gets in the competitive scene a bit more that players will demand you follow the pro's though... hope not.. but probably.

Do you know what scientific theory mean. I only have confidence up to the point that it has merit. Do you know what degrees of certainty is?? Secondly it's an analogy of his position and his arguments, which are pretty accurate stating that you agree with me that he has not provided evidence or reasoning in support of the position that his claim that DotA snowballs more than LoL, at least none that was not already debunked.

DotA is different from LoL where it's not a game entirely based on gold grinding to buy items to win fights to snowball and gold gold gold fight figh, oh we lost time to surrender cus it's gona snowball now. :|

It'll happen, the game is still being made, but a meta will happen no doubt.