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Talon is Diana all over again.

 
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KitStylus ?? Senior Member
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01-18-2013

When Talon drops from 55% winrate to 38% then you can compare him to Diana

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Peligrad ?? Senior Member
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01-18-2013

I saw talon twice last night...he did well both games...

When Diana was nerfed, whenever I saw her she only was counted as half a champ...

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Ext3rmin8or ?? Senior Member
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When Talon drops from 55% winrate to 38% then you can compare him to Diana
Yeah I wish people would stop thinking that the winrate of a champion magically makes them overpowered

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JustMyBassCannon ?? Senior Member
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Also Akali is a much better assassin than Talon and has much higher burst. Did she get nerfed into the ground? Nope.
How ****ing STUPID do you have to be to think Akali has more damage than Talon?

Akali doesn't have a damage AMP; Talon has two. Akali has overall lower base and scaling damage on her spells.

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Ext3rmin8or ?? Senior Member
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How ****ing STUPID do you have to be to think Akali has more damage than Talon?

Akali doesn't have a damage AMP; Talon has two. Akali has overall lower base and scaling damage on her spells.
Akali has always done more damage than Talon lol.

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SethCypher ?? Senior Member
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Akali has always done more damage than Talon lol.
Not burst damage, Akali has always done more sustained damage but her up front damage has always been so-so.

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Beija ?? Senior Member
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01-18-2013

Funny how whenever a champ reaches past 55%, they are automatically placed in the red light by community for RIOT to nerf to the ground.

60-40 matchups aren't impossible and it's amazing how they are so quick to "fix" balanced champs but leave toxic ones alone or do itty bitty changes like it's suppose to help anything.

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FreakinEpic808 ?? Senior Member
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How ****ing STUPID do you have to be to think Akali has more damage than Talon?

Akali doesn't have a damage AMP; Talon has two. Akali has overall lower base and scaling damage on her spells.
Akali=single target damage talon=aoe. Assassins shouldnt be doing aoe like talon was and thats why he got nerfed.

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Cook My Socks ?? Senior Member
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01-18-2013

If they wanted to nerf talon's AoE damage then they shouldn't deduct from his Q..... If they decided added an effect to an ability that was suppose to be there in the beginning needed to be accounted for, they should have deducted from his W. The whole issue in the beginning was that he did AoE damage as an assassin.... But instead they Nerfed his ult, fixed his BROKEN E... then nerfed his single-target Q.

It just seems odd to nerf his single-target ability that W was already chosen over, making it an even less favorable choice to put points into. That move more or less makes him more 1-dimensional in my opinion, changing a "likely" choice for build track into the "only" choice.

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Funny how whenever a champ reaches past 55%, they are automatically placed in the red light by community for RIOT to nerf to the ground.

60-40 matchups aren't impossible and it's amazing how they are so quick to "fix" balanced champs but leave toxic ones alone or do itty bitty changes like it's suppose to help anything.
When one champion's win rate hits a consistent 5% higher winrate than average, it doesn't actually mean that they are 5% better than average, because this game isn't 1v1. This game is 5v5, and, in order to have a 5% higher win rate, a champion basically has to be pushing the game in his favour harder than 5 enemies are pushing back, hence, he is effectively 25% better than average.

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