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How to deal with Elo Hell

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Rectal Necrosis ?? Senior Member
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01-20-2013

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I split my comments into 2 parts mainly because first half of his guide he is just whining while the other half is actually somewhat constructive.

Thus why my second half of the comment is also a reasonable response
Right, my stats don't impress, you, and I'm ok with that.

Here's the thing, I've watched League go from a cardmaster with an AoE stun and an 8 second slow, to this Bubble gum princess bull (personal opinion, I hate lux, sona, and ezreal due to their appearance alone). Even if my stats don't reflect anything positive, I've been around long enough to watch this game, and have learned a lot in the history.

Besides, I've more or less done my best to stray away from ranked as I feel it boils people into sniveling children because they all want to be cool like Ocelote. I really wouldn't care much for Ranked if not for my wife liking the thrill of the competition.

And whining? I'm regurgitating the garbage that I see, game after game.

 
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Ken makes a great point - "cheese" can be viable as a team strategy, but running it in solo queue throws your teammates off just as much as your enemies, if not moreso, and can damage team chemistry which wouldn't even be a factor while "cheese"ing with a premade.
Probably, but we have a good 2-5 minutes of communication time. I've found success in "Alright guys, pop darius top, put Xin in the jungle, and pop Ryze in mid. Also, if you wouldn't mind ez and leona bot?"

 
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Probably, but we have a good 2-5 minutes of communication time. I've found success in "Alright guys, pop darius top, put Xin in the jungle, and pop Ryze in mid. Also, if you wouldn't mind ez and leona bot?"
You've found success with that? I can barely get a team that wants to fill all the roles, much less have the exact champs I specify and are willing to play them.

In any case, my comment about limited communication time was with respect to targetted rather then generic bans,with which you have at best three minutes, if you're the banner and your opponents are taking the maximum time, and at worst, nothing, if both first picks know their bans.

The comment you quoted was directed at using off-meta strategies(which is what "cheese" is, to the best of my knowledge - oddly, the comp you mentioned there is a completely straightforward meta comp that I wouldn't consider even remotely related to "cheese"), and the difficulties of selling those to random teammates.

 
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You've found success with that? I can barely get a team that wants to fill all the roles, much less have the exact champs I specify and are willing to play them.

In any case, my comment about limited communication time was with respect to targetted rather then generic bans,with which you have at best three minutes, if you're the banner and your opponents are taking the maximum time, and at worst, nothing, if both first picks know their bans.

The comment you quoted was directed at using off-meta strategies(which is what "cheese" is, to the best of my knowledge - oddly, the comp you mentioned there is a completely straightforward meta comp that I wouldn't consider even remotely related to "cheese"), and the difficulties of selling those to random teammates.
You'd be surprised how complacent a team is when you agree to play support and pick the champ your ADC wants XD.

The biggest thing is abusing your surroundings. I got picked on a lot as a kid and was scrawny. One day, a kid in high school picked a fight with me in the school parking lot. I ripped off a car antenna and hit him right across with it. He fell faster than a miscarriage in a gravity chamber.

Random story, yeah? What I'm getting at is that there is no honor or shame in what you do. I hate champs like Ezreal and Xin Zhao, but that doesn't mean I won't play them if I'm sure that guarantees victory. I'd love to see Draven be super viable, or LB not pubstomp 1100- ELOs, but that's not going to happen. Figure out what's kicking your teeth in at your level, and use it to your advantage. That's probably my biggest tip.

 
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Huh. You must have played with some different leblancs then I have - if I see one on the other team, I can almost guarantee a win, but if I see one on my team, I'm inclined to dodge.

 
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01-20-2013

Learn to know when to dodge. Build a list of feeler questions (EG: Gee, they picked Blitz. Why'd you take Soraka? Gee, they picked Ryze, why'd you take Evelynn?) and learn your counter tables.

You're only ever going to win a lane you get counter picked in if your opponent just sucks, or if your jungle gets involved. Otherwise, at best, you just don't feed.

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