I hate to refer to 'you're mad', but when you're unwilling to listen, it's probably because of some serious vexation towards the champ.

I hope you get over it.

Edit: Oh, and backing out of this conversation. And here I thought you were reading. My bad.

I read, and so far everything you say is a given. It was all taken into account to begin with.

Unlike you, I did read what you say, and responded to it. It may be given to me but not to you and want to cite it. I'll respond to it. You don't respond to anything I say. That Vi can take damage like a tank. The situations where she is truly in danger are very few, because she hits like a fed Veigar and takes too much damage to take down.

So far as I've seen Vi always does well in her fights. She can die occasionally, and lose occasionally. But you don't beat Vi. She is usually positive in kills. You beat her teammates. A viable alternative, usually easier than trying to fight her off.

Instead of trying to go over givens in her kit, how about looking at the problem. She is unusually difficult to defeat by design.

Oh look I'm Vi. I'm charging my Q. You walked away...now I'm stuck with Q on cooldown...I get ganked...I die...fack...

Oh look I'm Vi again, charging again. This time Ima make sure you don't get away. Flash-realease Q, I do a lot of damage, didn't kill you. Q AND Flash on CD. I get ganked. I die...Fack...

Oh it's just me Vi...I Q onto your carry, I get CC'd and blown up. I die...fack.

I'm Vi. I'm dying. I die. Fack.



But in all seriousness, Vi is a champ that requires maybe not a fair deal of skill, but she at least requires some sort of effort on the person playing her to have her function correctly. And if the person playing against her doesn't see the telltale signs of her engages then whose fault is that?

PS. Don't stand behind minions.

What sStratSs said.

Her ultimate pisses me off, but that's only because I play squishy escape-reliant mages who get insti-gibbed when caught by it...

Ward the Bush and you just made her Q useless, she telegraphs it so much is only good to try to escape or hit from a bush.

Vi is not op. To say that she has a flash is simply not true. It takes a long time for you to get your full distance and while charging it up you are slowed. Unlike Ezraels ability that is a flash that does damage on top of it, plus an infinite rage ulti. She is good if you know how to build her and like any other champ out there, if you get fed early game, your going to dominate mid to late game. To not get owned, don't feed an adc champ/jungler, stop complaining, she's not op.

Vi is far from OP, people fail to realize with her 2 gap closers she is left extremely open to damage. She has high burst damage but not without consequences. Look at other champions people tried to compare her gap closers to. Akali, she jumps in shrouds and unless your have pink/oracles she is pretty safe while invis + the armor/mr boost and her gap closer is quick and uninterruptable. Katarina, shunpo lowers damage on her by 15% she can't be targeted and she can go to and from minions or champions quickly.

With Vi if someone see's you Q charging it's not hard to throw a minor CC and put it on CD effectively ruining one of your abilities and hurting any burst she has. Her Ultimate might avoid CC but it does not make her untargetable like Zed or other immediate travels. She is slowly dashing across the ground and can be mauled for damage since people see which target she is traveling to.

I've seen plenty of Vi's that I could stomp around because I play Vi constantly and have found a combo to use her burst effectively but at the same time you have to build survivability or you will just be nuked on command. She's no OP her kit forces her to go balls deep to do any damage if you're getting pwned by it build BV and she'll never want to target you with her ult.