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@Riot, The death of tanks.

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Irish Red Cap ?? Senior Member
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01-26-2013

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Originally Posted by Vuther View Post
I don't think we're quite in the right place yet, but something needed to be done about absolutely everyone ignoring AD casters with but a single Chain Vest and so far that has been fixed.
I don't mind that and I agree with you, it was badly set up for ADC's b4 where chain vest covered you from pretty much all their damage. What I don't understand is they nerf armor ratios on items, increase the cost, AND to top it all over give ADCs MORE ways to shred armor. They could have done 1 or the other and it would have worked just as well.

 
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Nea De Penserhir ?? Senior Member
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01-26-2013

0/10. Would not recommend.

 
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Irish Red Cap ?? Senior Member
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01-26-2013

wtf are you even commenting on 0/10? The only option I suggested was either return the original armor ratios or lower the % Armor Pen Champs can stack so that tanks can actually TANK not be mush in front of a carry.

 
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Belisarius09 ?? Senior Member
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01-26-2013

Riot loves bruisers and wants to **** over assassins and burst mages,

 
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Irish Red Cap ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

This I completely agree with Belisarius. You notice the truest Fights/Bruiser in the game doesn't get nerfed and even when everyone had to concentrate on new items he kept his same build and still wrecked face. *cough*Jax*cough*

 
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Xsistence ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

I don't even have to read this tanks have totally been replaced by supports and off tanks in jungle or top.

kinda sucks...

 
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Tyr Ahn Nee ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

@OP

Yeah, I was just playing Maokai, in a match with a Xin Zhao, and he was ripping through me like a hot knife through butter! I stopped my plans to build an AP Mao, and started building armor, and it didn't even matter, it was just the same, Xin Zhao would spring on me, and whack, whack, whack, I was dead.
I finished the game with the most deaths! I was like: WTF???

Lucky for me I found this thread, because I was going to start one that said:
F U Riot! .I.

 
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JustMyBassCannon ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

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Originally Posted by WhiteHatCracker View Post
59%? I think your math is badly off.
Only by less than 1%, really. The exact value is exactly 58.5625%.

Multiplicative scaling on percentages does that.
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Originally Posted by WhiteHatCracker View Post
Rammus is the epitome of a tank. A taunt, an AoE, armor/MR boost, and a disrupt. How he is a horrible example? I can still play rammus and still do what tanks do he just lost his FoTM status a while back and people don't want to play him anymore. Difference is even with all of Rammus' armor boost from his def curl I can still stack hp and be shredded by an ADC who hits me. Conversely I can do the same with Rammus and laugh as a mage burns his entire kit on me and doesn't take 10% of my hp. They disproportionally lowered tanks and mages while beefing ADCs, Bruisers, and Fighters. Assassins still have their role as burst damage but you even see Assassin's building HP now to cover for the fact that if they jump in they get melted in 1 second from the amount of damage any of the 3 mentioned above can throw out even while having less resistances built and less damage.
Rammus is a bad example of a tank because his gap closer literally takes 3 seconds to start actually closing the gap (4-5 if his target has Ghost) and only lasts 7 seconds, his CC is single-target and melee range, and his AoE damage is done over 8 seconds in a short range.

With all the mobility, anti-CC and counter-CC available, there are very few champions Rammus can fight against well. And in a team fight, he can only force one enemy to attack himself instead of the carry. He's ignored in team fights because he doesn't have any way to force focus besides taunting.

There are rare occasions of him succeeding, but there are far more where other tanks are just plain better.

 
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Crimson5pheonix ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

Dude, tanks still win teamfights. All the damage in the world still doesn't beat Nautilus pull into AA stun into AoE knockup.

 
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Galgus ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2013

The existence of Bruisers, who do most of what Tanks do while also getting kills, is the real reason tank stats are easier to get through now with physical damage.

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