The issue is you're also basing that sort of game largely on random players being thrown together. With coordination, you'd be surprised how a team match up like that might develop. Not to mention, with unconventional builds in the mix, it makes for very exciting developments and action. Whilst it will likely still be slightly one sided for early game, you'd again be amazed at how a good, organized team of 5 can go "all in" to give themselves enough of an advantage to survive into the late game. All they'd need to do is win 1 team fight by level 6 and they could take out T1 turret and bam early game advantage swings to balance the compositions.

Besides, I didn't personally host the tournament for competitive interest. It was a way to get a little awareness out there to build the Proving Ground community and my streaming channel. It will not be the only genre of tournament I will be holding.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not directing any criticism towards you personally, I just want people to make ADAM tournaments xD

Also, I've played enough games to know that a good team can beat lesser team even if the lesser team has better champions. But when both teams are equal in skill level, it's just not possible. The only way a lesser team comp can win is if the other side makes huge mistakes, in custom games this happens all the time. But in a competitive setting, especially if you get a prize involved people stop making these silly mistakes because they are more concerned about winning than they are just goofing off.

Even if you somehow manage to take a turret and get some gold, you may not necessarily have better late game comp since the champions are random. Sometimes, your team has a worse early game, mid game, and late game, then you lose, and it's not fun to play, or watch, because you can't even compete with the other team at any point. Granted this doesn't happen every game, this is just the downside to ARAM that makes me dislike it being used in a competitive environment. It turns it into a game of Black Jack instead of a test of skill. Every once in a while, you get a good fair match up and its a competitive game, but in ADAM this happens in every game.

Think of it like Azubu frost playing Azubu blaze, If Frost goes with bad picks on purpose they will lose every time, it doesn't matter how they play it, the players are good enough to win %50 with equal picks, they can definitely win when the other team has trash picks. Not that I'm comparing myself to Frost, these are just 2 teams that are equal in skill, and easy to compare.

Your concerns go back to why, in a competitive sense, the ideal format for an ARAM tournament would be BO3 or BO5 matches. A team is fairly unlikely to get that unfavorable of a matchup two or three times in a row.

You also can't just assume that neither team is going to make a mistake, even at the higher level of play. That how two teams could play each other on SR with the the same comps twice in a row, and have different outcomes in either case. Are all the players similarly skilled mechanically? For sure. But one team is going to make more mistakes than the other. One team might adapt better to the other team's playstyle.

If ARAM tournaments were to become a more regular thing, I would bet that the top handful of teams will be pretty consistent across tournaments. The same team might not win every single one, but is that really a problem? Does that really differ from the trend in SR tournaments?

It's not like we're expecting some kind of ARAM World Championship with a multi-million dollar prize pool. These are minor tournaments. They have small rewards attached for the winners, but that just helps draw more competitors.

With some friends we tought about a possible house rule to ease bans in a ADAM tournament. A few random bans for both teams, broadcasted outside the game maybe.
Like a facebook post announcing "this game, the 3 random bans are... [insert randoms here]" .
That way some games you'd get a few champs that wouldn't take ban slots. Other times it would be legit. But it's basically just to shake up part of the champ roster.

because its fun? But then again that's not what a video game is for.

I think the bottom line of this thread is distinguishing the difference between competition and entertainment. Like you said, Sgt. Pepper, ARAM is a bit like Black Jack. It's slightly related to the "luck of the draw". But to be fair, Zeilmann reiterates my point that, you can't be hell bent over the team comp. Even the pros **** up, and pros will take advantage of any skilled player ****ing up in order to win, therefore, even a disadvantageous comp can stand a chance given the opportunity.

Secondly, I didn't take this as a personal attack ^^ I just felt that since I was hosting an ARAM tournament currently, my input was relevant :P

I hope I've helped answer your question as to why some of us find an ARAM tournament interesting. But to satiate your thirst for some balanced, draft pick competition, as you already know, but I will reiterate for the sake of advertisement, I will be hosting weekly events on Fridays which will include multiple themes, such as ADAM, for viewer entertainment.

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he has a bit of a point, a team of 5 randoms could win because there are times when the superior team gets roll'd because fo their teamcomp. find me a team that can win with karma/sona/shaco/garen/leblanc, and i will give you a cookie.

Find me a team that can lose with both Sona and Karma on their team, and I'll give you dozen cookies. Especially if you're going to pair them with a solid tank, burst caster, and viable AD champion (no, Shaco does not have to be played AP on PG).

Take my word from personal experience: Coordination and teamwork in ARAM can still easily trump the team comp factor.

Winning with a team comp that you feel (or most of the community would feel) is worse in ARAM than the opponents' team makes it much more rewarding to win. take the team that Run4TheHills just mentioned, and put it against a team of Blitzcrank/Caitlyn/Xerath/Jayce/Anivia. If the Karma team wins, it feels much more rewarding than a normal game on SR, because its like playing on what could be compared to a higher difficulty level, assuming equal skill levels. If the Blitz team wins, then at least the Karma team knows that they had a disadvantage from the start, and couldn't quite outplay the other team.

Easy... Leona, Alistar, Varus, Kassadin, Kayle.