Things I do not have a problem with:

Extra health regen.
Crazy tanking.
Hiding in brush.
Spinning to win.
His role in turning Urgot into a cyborg.

Things that really do bother me:

Being cut in half (killed instantly, I mean) even though I have half of my health left.
Garen activating overdrive mode, turning his feet into bionic-man legs that allow him to break the sound barrier.

Currently what I see: Garen dashes up and slaps my in the face with his sword, silencing me. He then spins-to-win all over me and we fight a short battle of attrition...However, when I reach about 40% of my maximum health, he kills me with a single move, and then despite being low on health and slowed by several teammates, he dashes away so fast that my teammates can't catch him EVEN WHEN HE IS SLOWED.

If it happened every once in a while I would just chalk it up to some kind of mistake that we made, but this is Garen in every game...He's so strong that, without being fed, a group of four players HESITATES TO ATTACK HIM. Am I the only one this is happening to, or are there others experiencing the same morale-crushing "OPness" that I am?

nope, sthap facecheckig bushes

It's funny, I remember when Garens only went straight tank and didn't do that much damage. But his speedup removes slows on him and he's somewhat tough for a fighter. Bring CC's harder than a slow, or wait until after he pops his speed up to slow him. He doesn't have a real gap closer, so that helps too.

Good grief, I didn't even realize it also removed slows- no wonder he seems so fast. Still, it's quite a large speed boost. Also: Isn't a speed buff the definitive version of a "gap closer"?

I already mentioned "hiding in bushes". Everyone expected your comment. You are a bad person and you should feel bad.


Heh, heh- just kiddin'. About the bad person part I mean.

**EDIT: For those of you who still facecheck bushes, you deserve every horrible death you receive.

I used to think Garen was OP, then I started maining Teemo.

It's 35% bonus movement. Which leads to another common attribute to Garens, they tend to build speed 3 boots to maximize their speedup.

A real gap closer is a pull that's significantly longer than AA range (Blitzcrank, Thresh) or a jump (Leona, Rengar, Kha'zix). The problem with speed ups is that it leaves the opponent with enough time to either slow the runner, speed themselves up and just walk away, or use their escape.

blame champ, dont mention who youre playing, dont bother getting results.

sure, the world is OP

gg seeya

Note the word "removes" rather than "ignores"

That's a very important thing to learn; time your slows until after you hear that sound.

I've had similar situations happen while playing against Garen while playing as or on a team with the following champions: Urgot, Twitch, Teemo, Thresh, Ashe, Mundo, Sona, Zilean, Zed, Ahri, Ziggs, Darius, and many others.

There are other champions who can do part of what Garen does, but I don't think there are many who can do all the things Garen does. Speed boost in, silence a target, spin to win, Kill someone who is just under half health (I had this happen to me when I was Mundo, which really suprised me- I had about 2k health left and almost 100 resist when he one-shotted me) and then speed boost to escape after fighting with 2 or 3 champions.

Garen tanks like a boss, silences, has a slow-removing speed boost, has an aoe spin to hit everything in the area, and can rip someone apart as soon as they are under 45% health with one skill, it just seems like overkill to me and that's why I posted the question. Please don't be an *******. (edit: Trollhole)