I think you still failed to see the point I was making, I wasnt being serious on how alike mumu and mao were, I was pointing out that talking about other champs being better means nothing in this post. This post is not about who is better at jungling then leona but how to jungle her in the first place. Nothing more then that.

The problem with Leona jungle is the same problem she's always had as anything other than support.

Her ability damage is balanced around her passive's damage, but she has no direct access to that damage alone.

Her ganks are really strong, unfortunately, her slow jungle clear speed due to having no access to 40-50% of her on paper damage potential when alone means she'd easy to counter jungle and would falls ridiculously behind to any other jungler with better speed.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2261535

Longest running and most informative/rational Leona discussion on the forum.

I'm honestly surprised it hasn't gotten a single red comment yet.

I understand what you are saying, and in my original post I stated that she CAN jungle which is what this thread was originally about. I only made a suggestion that even though she can jungle, she doesn't do it as well as some others who would fill a similar role in team fighting. I don't think there was anything wrong with making that suggestion, in fact suggestions from other players, and trying out new champions is how players get better. It's very possible that I was suggesting to the OP that if he wants to play a jungle champion similar to Leona that may be a bit stronger in the jungle then Maokai is a good choice. Nothing more than that, nothing less.