Originally Posted by Morello
Except his problem cases are in 2000+ elo.
This reaction is expected, because the common opinion of this is that Shaco sucks, when he factually is really strong. When the argument is "he's really bad, why nerf" I can't discuss that because your argument is based on something that's just not correct here.
his problem cases in 2k+ are because people up there play the same 195 people over and over and over and over and there are some great Shacos at that level, with people who understand how to take advantage of him whether they play as him or not.
You pretty much crushed a champion into the ground because he won 55% of the time, out of the 10-11% of games he's picked, by the >1% of people who play him consistently.
Not only that Morello, but your champ video I felt had faulty information. Shaco isn't strong in the jungle at all. He's strong at the first buff. Everything after that until he gets Madred's Razor takes years. My biggest concern is that very few people know Shaco that well, and I would argue that I don't even think Riot has begun to scratch the surface of Shaco's power. He's kind of a champion that you need input from people who have thousands of games with him. I won't deny that counterplaying against Shaco is extremely difficult (not impossible like the patch preview hinted at) and that he should be toned down early game. But the fact that you stomp on his legs and give him nothing to compensate is pretty bs. Two-Shiv doesn't even do physical damage. It's a worthless nuke late game, and the "buff" you gave him last time making it scale of bonus AD while toning down the early game strength of the ability only did the latter.