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Poll: Demotion in Ranked requires a series

View Poll Results: Poll: DEmotion in Ranked requiring a series
Yes, id like a chance to stay in the division 38 86.36%
No, i deserve the automatic demotion 6 13.64%
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Darklarik ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

PLZ BUMP!
I was wondering about this idea.

when your in the dumps of your division, maybe on an unlucky streak, instead of getting automatically demoted to the previous division, would you prefer to have to play a series to stay in said division?


Yegg had talked about this:

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Originally Posted by Yegg;
We've talked about this, but the problem with it is that it'd be very demoralizing to be playing a series where the best possible outcome is the status quo and the worst outcome is a demotion. Would you be motivated to log in and play ranked during that? I think a lot of people just wouldn't bother.
The flipside of course is that it makes it feel like the demotion was a lot more fair when it does happen.
Maybe if you succesfully manage to stay into the division via series you could get a couple of LP so you wont end up straight back at 0LP and if you lose again you need to do another series.


Thoughts? I personally dont care. Just want to see what the community thinks. Also, please coment and bump. so others see this thread

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Reaganomics ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

Sounds good to me.

When this all started I was actually very confused about things, I thought once you had achieved a division that you couldn't fall below that division. I fell a division and was really irked until I read that it was you couldn't fall out of a Tier. Live and learn.

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Darklarik ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

bum

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CarePoliceLoL ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

No. You deserve a demotion. Why? Because there is no such thing as "automatic demotion". There are ranked demotion matches and they are called grace period.

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shppy ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

getting demoted isn't 'automatic'. At least not from an LP perspective. It's based on your mmr, more specifically your mmr being a fair bit below what's expected of your division. If your mmr is living up to your division, an 'unlucky streak' isn't going to kick you down in all likelihood, unless it's one hell of a long streak.


The short version: if you got demoted, sorry, but it's what you earned.

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Crusnik07 ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

I think this idea is good because it <<LETS YOU KNOW>> when you are fighting to keep your place... I think people get more mad about thinking in their head, "Oh, appears I randomly dropped a division," then they would thinking, "Uh oh! Time to buckle down for a few games!"

((People fear the unknown, especially if it is most likely to be bad))

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Darklarik ?? Senior Member
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02-10-2013

bbb

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Lord Vagabob ?? Member
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02-13-2013

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No. You deserve a demotion. Why? Because there is no such thing as "automatic demotion". There are ranked demotion matches and they are called grace period.
Im so sick of demotions

Get into silver III

Get another win, on 24 points

First loss, now on 8 points

Second loss, now 0

Third loss, DEMOTED

WTF? So I get demoted for losing 1 match on 0 points? Current system is sticky downwards. I have to get to 100 points then win 2 matches to get promoted, but only 1 match to get demoted from 0.

I'm getting over this game.

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Lord Vagabob ?? Member
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02-13-2013

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getting demoted isn't 'automatic'. At least not from an LP perspective. It's based on your mmr, more specifically your mmr being a fair bit below what's expected of your division. If your mmr is living up to your division, an 'unlucky streak' isn't going to kick you down in all likelihood, unless it's one hell of a long streak.


The short version: if you got demoted, sorry, but it's what you earned.
Completely false

My MMR is much higher than my division, hence I win 24, 25 points per win but only lose 16 points for losses.

I still get demoted from 0.

MMR doesn't seem to impact promotions/demotions in any way that you describe

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cartoonsandwich ?? Junior Member
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02-14-2013

It would make sense if your MMR played a role - I don't know if it does or not.

What IS frustrating is that I was just in a losing streak and dropped a division on the first loss at 0LP. Now I have to win as many games as I lost in my streak JUST TO GET BACK INTO MY ORIGINAL DIVISION (let alone getting up to where I was before the streak). That's frustrating. If you dropped into the top of your new division it might make more sense, but still - I'd rather know exactly how many games I had before I dropped.

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