Heeey guess what people.
Karma is overshadowed as a support.. her sheild is mediocre and her heal is... bad as hell.
It uses alot of mana + u require a 20 second cd mantra to use it... Sona's heal has low CD gives armor and a aura. And she has a full team stun. And a speed and a damage aura Sorakas heal has nearly the same cd as mantra but heals alot more and gives ALOT of armor. Not mentioning she can heal mana or silence a global ult a Q that shreds MR.. Ah who else. Janna's heal (Ult) has a long *** CD but heals everyone around u alot more than karma's Heavenly wave. And has a long ranged stun a slow a passive that speeds up ur team... a sheild that is nearly as good as karmas...
Tarics can be spammed because whenever you auto attack it reduces 1 second of its CD.
and he has a stun/armor aura/steroid ult.
Karma gets out damaged by every support which i find dumb... actually im not sure with that passive of hers. But without mantra stacks she does no damage whatsoever. Her Q has a short range , her W doesnt damage the enemy u target and it isnt a strong CC , her E is good. Her ult doesnt feel like a ult. Riot she gets overshadowed by nearly all the supports. oh wait not nearly all of them. Eh.. if there is a support she is better than please comment the name ._. Needs a rework OR a extra mantra and buff the heal on her mantra + heavenly wave.


Might as well include trundle needs a small buff aswell. Nobody uses him these days... His Q slows him down on a chase so much that it isnt even worth using it when ur chasing someone down. his E is a nice big snot mountain slow. His W is a great run in a smash their faces. his ult is.. eh could use some AD ratios :/... Just a buff on his Q and possibly his R. Then people will come in the shop to hire a troll for the jungle ;D

I don't think Trundle needs a buff, Karma does though.

Trundle would be "underground OP", but at the same time, he isn't OP, I think he is fine as he is, just..no one likes to use him. I'm assuming because of how ugly he looks XD

karma is THE least played champion for a reason. She needs a rework. A visual rework, a kit rework everything.

Teemo UP as support, worse than karma imo

Karma isn't a support.

what people don't understand is she's not a freaking support. her best role is mid lane she can dominate the lane easily and has few if any bad matchups. the reason people don't play her is cause the stubbornness of noobs playing mid in the current meta right now is i wanna deal damage where as with karma ur affecting the team fight with slightly weaker damage but with constant high sustain and shields. Her damage isn't even that low but the fact that she's both an apc and a support is what turns people off it's partly the same reason why people don't play zilean so much cause he can't carry by himself he does high damage but his utility makes him amazing in a team fight.

So everyone saying she isnt a support do us a favor and click her in the chanpion list and look at her roles. I understand they are not limited to that but when they were maid thats what they were intended for. And 2 she is a battle support, she has a fairly high amount of damage and if u build mana regen and cool down u can keep constant with abilities. Her heal can do damage to all enemies at the same time heal all alies in path. Soraka and sona only heal one eaxh time for a fixed amount where karmas heal has a solid number with percentage of health missing in other words the more beat up the team mate the more health restored ie great in battle and her shield if u r it does great damage to area of whoever u shield as well as shielding the. Alie so if the team doesnt seperate they all take a decent amountnof damage as well as have a harder time taking that teammate out and if they do seperatw it reduces team comp giving your team an edge a slow that does damage and speeds up allies and any one caught in the string also takes damage and slowed or sped up if team mate. She is a great support its just knowingnu cant play her like all others she has her own style that u dont always see and she does have a more difficult learning curve thus no one plays her.

Can we stop posting about Karma on the feedback forums? Her visual and gameplay rework are coming soon. She can be both a good support and a good apc. Her heal is for 15% total health if I remember correctly and it I AoE so it can hit your entire team. Her shield is far from "mediocre" the damage it does on top of being a shield is insane.

Also, her ult costs no mana at all, don't know where someone got that. And the cooldown can be as low as 12 seconds if you have enough CDR which is pretty much required on her.

Her passive is what makes her so good though, I love going mid with her. People harass me then try to tower dive and R-E-W-Q they're dead. She does need a little bit of a visual update, which she's getting and her kit could use a tiny bit of work, but she's getting an entire rework anyways.