It is well known that the current warmogs is to dominant of a mid game item. This was not an issue in season 2.

The only think that has really change about warmogs is that it now does not require killing minions/creeps etc in order to be at it's best,

What I am suggesting is that it be changed to having only 650 base health and have 4.5 health added for everything the owner kills much like the passive it once had. caps at 1100 health.

The 1.5% healthregen over 5 seconds would remain as it currently is.

I like the change, but I don't think it'll need anymore HP. Just keep it at the 1000 mark and call it good. The 1.5% healthregen is already really good by it self.

Then you would have to make it cheaper though, when it comes to items that have potential to stack, you NEVER poay enough money to pay for what it is worth when fully stacked.

When it is fully stacked it is cost efficent. when it has no stacks then it is a not a cost effecint item.

It is currently being abused by many in game and lacks solid mid game countering. If it was a counter-able mid game item that stays fairly good through to late game that would be ideal. As it is there is no solid mid game counter to someone just getting 1000 more health.

Against this, Warmogs is fine stop complaining, it just got more expensive now anyway....

Warmogs is still too good, but that's because health is a really good stat right now. Before Riot even increased the cost they said that this was just the first change. They're slowing making changes to find a good spot for it but by no means is Warmogs done being looked at yet.

An item you need to stack up is supposed to suppsoed to be cost efficient BEFORE it reaches full stacks though, if it only iscost efficient with full stacks then nobody will ever buy it cause it is never worth it.

the whole point of stacking iTems is that you buy something at a price that is somewhat HIGHER than it is worth with 0 stacks but CHEAPER than it were with full stacks. That is the whole POINT of these items, being worth less than the cost on 0 stacks but being worth MORE than the cost on full stacks.

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So you are saying that soulstealer with it's 20 AP and cost of 1235 is cost effecent with no stacks?

The issue is that warmogs provides to much mid game currently. It was not a problem in season 2 because it needed it's stacks to become a really effective item. Buying warmogs should be a late game investment with some risk, not something that shen gets and does 100 more damage from with his passive. What I am suggesting would make it cost efficient at 54 stacks and each thing killed worth an extra 14.3055 gold.

At 0 stacks it would be worth 2066.35 gold and at max stacks worth 3496.9 gold.

That 650 health will be an alright starting point for most champs but will make them have to farm for a bit to make up for the item they bought.

No I do not say so, I said stack items are supposed to be viable MID stacking and Mejai's and SotO are a totally other story, cause those 2 items were never created to be viable AT ALL in usual play.

This item would be at 54 stacks.