I really hated the speed shrine, so I'm not sure. While you do have a point, the speed shrine also made it so you were really afraid to push because they could zoom behind you, and so you could zoom away from the enemy.

The mechanics that are in place just make the game end suddenly with less control from the players. Doesn't make the games shorter for me.

because u pick early game champs, but ur teammates have beter late game then opposing teams, u critcize em over it?
you know how mnay 2v3 or games where we got stomped early game and i taught my teammates to turtle(surprising right? 2013 vets ftw) and we get inhibs back, ace once, get altars push their side, ace and win. and if u want a game to be soooo one sided that it ends in 20 minutes, then i see no point to play. why play if u have a 50-50 chance to stomp or get stomped, no fun at all.
ive played numerous games on old TT that pushed 50-60 mins. but since this new map, i've had a record long game of an hour and 26 minutes, was an intense form of me trying to teach my teammates the beauty of a split push while they turtle. its my way to beat turtle, cuz split push draws the tankier to solo, if solo dies, bot is open to push the inhib and main turret, or top falls back 2v1 top or 1v1 bot, leaving 2v1 top dived and killed, then turret inhib down, and 3v1 dive for the win. its simple, it works, but no one likes it. people would rather kill *****(which i love cuz its what makes me win games)

wut.

Also, I don't think 30 is too long. I think it's a nice in-between time of SR and Dominion.

But, the thing with TT is that a late game ace can secure a victory. I hate surrendering on TT just because we've won so many games we "should have lost". The "winning" team gets too over-zealous most of the time and we get the drop on them.

i love 30min games its the hour long ones that get to me but usually its the fault of my team that we let it get that far in the first place lol

https://www.youtube.com/user/LateGameTeam

More people should read the first post.

Exactly, I've been on both sides of this. It makes early game kills somewhat irrelevant. Yeah you get gold, but there's no real advantage. even if they take the alter, you get it back in a few minutes.

I've been in plenty of games where we were behind in kills early and got an ace, by skill or luck, and ended the game after pushing 2 towers and an inhib. Also been in games where we were wreaking house, and they get a good or lucky kill, ace us then win.

It isn't fun to make 1 mistake and lose when you've capitalized on the other teams mistakes all game.

If u don't like how long the games are then dont play

I feel like this is a great perspective into TT. We had a guy have to go, decided we needed to get kills then, aced them, pushed all three towers from bottom to the nexus and won because they didn't have time to respawn except one by one.

The fact is, one ace at the wrong time, even with all three turrets up in a lane, can mean you lost, which I think is a little messed up. Tower damage doesn't seem to be enough. It should scale with level, imo. Not so it always does the same percentage, but it should scale up. Also, I feel the map is too small.

But let's go back to the OP saying games last too long. My instinct on this is that it tends to be the players who drag out the game more than the map itself. It you're a balanced team and you're balanced against your opponents, it's inevitable to drag on for a really long time. I think that's just a fact of equal players on both sides. I hate 50 minute games. The IP should scale up a lot for long games, because as enjoyable as LoL is, losing an hour of my life for a bunch of back and forth isn't fun and makes the time investment not worth the reward in fun, gratification, or IP.

downvoted for being no1 3's team lol