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Fank Frankerton ?? Member
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02-19-2013

Lionell, the Vampire Halfling.
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Role - Carry, Melee, Assassin
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Abilities

Passive - (Vital signs) - . Lionel senses his enemies vital spots having %6 crit chance and 3% extra crit damage.

Q - (Into the shadows) - Lionell engulfs himself in the darkness, going untargetable while able to attack dealing 45,40,35,30,25% less damage damage for 3 seconds. 12 second cooldown. (during bloodlust lionell gains 1.5 seconds of going untargetable for every enemy champions he attacks)

W - (Vampiric genetics) - Lionell passivley gains (2,4,6,8,10%) healthsteal and movement speed, which can double when activated for 4 seconds but loses his passive on cooldown. 9 second cooldown. During bloodlust only 50% of this abilities perks are received.

E - (Seeking the jugular) - When activated lionell leaps to an enemy champion and his next basic attack will critically strike for (110,120,130,140,150%) crit damage. 15 second cooldown. During bloodlust seeking the jugular has no cooldown against enemy champions who havent been struck by seeking the jugular for the past 4 seconds.

R - (Bloodlust) - Lionell deals 50% extra damage to enemy champions, gains (20,30,40%) healthsteal for 7 seconds. 90 second cooldown
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Base stats

Health - 420 (+75) per level.
Attack damage - 60 (+3.5) per level.
Mana - None
Movement speed - 360
Armor - 9 (+2.5) per level
Magic resistance -12 (+3.2) per level
Health regen - 0
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Lore

Lionel growing up never knew his parents, with nothing else to know other than the marauding group of vampires that raised him never let him forget he's only a "half vamp." Growing up a halfling in a vampires environment is something far from easy. Never enjoying the hunts and only feeding when completely necessary, which was far less frequent than the full bloods. Lionel eventually left his brethren in hopes to cure himself of vampirism. Leaving the group, Lionel was considered a traitor. Hunted down by all he ever knew as family, Lionel picked them off one by one and vowed to never again feed on the weak but those who preyed upon them. Only the blood of a hemomancer can cure vampirism, the journey of a thousand years it took Lionel to discover this. Vladimir contains the blood of the last hemomancer. The League of Legends is Lionel's new hunting grounds.
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Appearance etc.

Lionel is dressed in a black hooded robe with a dark veil over his face to hide his dark secret of being a vamp. He weilds two scimitars.

Taunt - "Your blood will soon be coursing through my veins"

Joke - "Here comes the blood-drive"

Dance - The Carlton

 
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Fank Frankerton ?? Member
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02-20-2013

Criticism is much appreciated

 
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02-20-2013

Okay I feel like i've improved Lionel quite a bit, imagine how sick that would be, Lionel would be really squishy and have to play defensively early game. Late game though, he would be a momentum shifter in teamfights. Imagine how disrupted the enemy team would be once he goes untargetable.

He would be one of the hardest carries of all time and very fun to play as.

 
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02-21-2013

I'm feeling like I should improve my reviewing skills and taking into consideration all I know with scenarios I ponder. Here are my thoughts.
Review: What's Wrong

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Passive - (Vital signs) - . Lionel senses his enemies vital spots having %15 crit chance and 7.5% extra crit damage.
Ya see, things like Crit and Crit damage are so risky for an OC Champ is because very quickly early game, it's op. I have Crit Chance up to a certain percent with my rune page, it cost me a lot of time and possible champions but it was worth it for a complete page. In Pvp, all you need is a lucky crit and with this champ and full crit page, it'd be too easy to get crits. Tryn has the somewhat similar but it's fair because he has to keep attacking things or it goes away. I don't see how anyone can get away from this champ early game even if they land a good hit on him.

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Q - (Into the shadows) - Lionell engulfs himself in the darkness, going untargetable while able to attack dealing 35% less damage damage for (2,4,6,8,10) seconds. 6(+1extra second per level, 11 max) cooldown beginning after into the shadows has worn off. lionel becomes targetable after attacking the same target for 4 seconds.
See, I noticed you were trying to make it fair and not copy off of Vald, points, but, 4 seconds is far to long and almost a waste, the whole idea is also pretty op in itself since he's listed as an ADC. You could start teamfights and end them quickly without even trying. Hell, with enough AS and the Frozen mallet you could easily destroy a Darius with this.On another level, this move also leaves you open for full minion destruction. 4 seconds up, and now everything can target and eat you, not only that but if you become untargetable, you know how easy it would be to use this, walk past a turrent a recalling champ, back-hand them, and then laugh as they rage?

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W - (Vampiric genetics) - Lionell passivley gains (2,4,6,8,10%) healthsteal and movement speed, which can double when activated for 4 seconds but loses his passive on cooldown. 9 second cooldown. Cooldown refreshed when killing an enemy champion. During bloodlust Lionel's passive is tripled.
Lifesteal* Now given the champs I play, lifesteal in any amount is a godsend. Though having it doubled along with MS it can be very easy to stay in lane by just. Activate, smack smack smack, hide, repeat. Not only that but say you get that last hit on a champ who just so happened to get in to close, CD over and you can possibly stack this until you it doesn't matter how long it lasts. For ideas like this you have to put down, 'stackable,' 'Timer's not reset on activation again.' etc. otherwise, teamfight, activate, get first kill, activate, second, and soon it's 50% and you suddenly don't feel pain anymore. Oh and tripled on Ult, while a good idea in theory, extermely op in practice because then the stacks go from, op, to Rage Quit.

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E - (Seeking the jugular) - When activated lionell leaps to an enemy champion and his next basic attack will critically strike for (110,120,130,140,150%) crit damage. 15 second cooldown. During bloodlust seeking the jugular has no cooldown against enemies with less than 25% health.
I don't even think I need to state why this is op or why developers would pull their hair at this. Similar to Shaco's Q but more effective at getting your mark. Though you need to say if it does Damage or not, if so, how much? What's the range on this? Is the leap like Jax, Pathn, or Kha' Zax? You have to also say if this is affected by your passive because that adds to percentages which changes the amount of damage done. Also, no CD on enemies with that low health, just slap so speed on him, a slowing item, and congrats on that penta you just got. This is more then unfair and op for anyone fighting against him. His kit is entirely based on doing high damage with crits almost as a garentee. It would he easy for him to go , smack smack punch, ult, leap of doom, dead, repeat on ult CD. The amount of burst damage on this would mean it doesn't matter if he's squishy, it matters if he's 1 v 5 and I still put favor in his skills that he'd take out two or three. Heaven forbid he went jungle and had buffs, might as well just put your hand on the enemy nexus and say "You weren't ever meant for this world."

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R - (Bloodlust) - Lionell deals 50% extra damage to enemy champions, gains (20,30,40%) healthsteal, and (10,20,30%) movement speed for 8 seconds. 80 second cooldown
Op, op,op,op,op,op,op, Darius fed would be killed in 4 seconds. This....this just no. 50% extra + crit chances + crit damage increased, means, when ult is poped, someone is dying. Your ult is not your 'I win" button, it's you 'Big burst' or 'Steroid' it's never suppose to be an instant gut and laugh. If you had two buffs, maybe, but not with that high of a buff. Why both having a support with this champ? Why bother even fighting against him? See, when I was in pvp, and I fought an EZ as WW, I went into that fight knowing it was 50/50 if I was the tankiest champ against this one, I'd still say it was 20/80 even if help. Rune Pages would be deicated to making this champ god. Masteries would be redone just to make sure he gets the best advantage always. Noxus would cower in fear against him. Thresh would debate if getting his soul was worth it. [Insert more league related stuff here]. The whole kit itself is just a one-click-I-win. I feel like if I were to use him, wait 10 minutes and then start to join the fight. I would still get a vast majority of the kills before gg with my team winning.

Overall, as it is, this kit is based on Auto-attack. As we've seen with other champs, it's not the worst thing in the world, but with all the buffs, and power you've given him, it's too much. You need to include things like Range for one of your skills. While he doesn't seem to have an CC. that is a problem easily solved by items. Even then with the amount of speed he could have, he might not need a slow. The only thing really stopping him from dominating everything are turrets and in Domination, heaven forbid someone run into him. I would feel bad for bots if they had to go up against this champ.

Here's some suggestions on how you can change him though, to make him a little less op and godly. Oh and before I begin this no mana thing? No, you give him energy or mana, otherwise he never needs to leave lane. I would've said health is viable option for this but not in this case where he gets a passive that has lifesteal. Mana/Energy provide it so you can't spam skills at infinite. It's so easy to wait in a bush with a ward and a potion and then leap out and murder.

Passive: Either Reduce the percentages to a lower number, or get rid of one, I'd recommend 5% percent crit chance, and 2.5% crit damge extra. If you math it out, every 20 attacks he has a chance to crit + whatever chance masteries and runes add.

Q: If you are gonna make him untargetable, make it after 2 seconds of attacking the target he becomes targetable by them only. Don;t have the amount of time you can be untargetable increase. Make the CD high and reduce that instead. It makes this much more fair because think how easy it would be to walk past turrets and wait for enemy champs before the minions even spawn. Or reduce the damage penalty he takes, just don't increase the time untargetable.

W: Add the following 'This move is not stackable" or "Timer is reset upon activation while this spell is still active." It makes it so you want to get that kill rather then you garentee your kill. It also causes you to think. Will I be able to finish off this champion? Should I risk running in their, getting the kill, and trying to run out? You'd have to think your next move out, like an assassin always should. Also, just remove the part about it being tripled during your ult. The ult itself is a good enough buff that if you activate this afterwards, it's only to give you a better chance at a chase or to get away.

E: Add if the Leap itself does any damage or it's it's literally just a "I wanna hug you" button. If the leap doesn't, I suggest reduce the CD on it, but remove the "During bloodlust seeking the jugular has no cooldown against enemies with less than 25% health. " bit. Once again, it is so simple to just 'Leap, smack, enemy slain, leap away or two another victim' that leap should be a risk to either end someone, or jump to safety.

R: Remove one of those buffs, reduce the % on whatever you didn't remove, give it a bigger CD. Going based off the Lore(which I'll address only upon request) Lionell shouldn't want to use this as often as summoners would make him do. He doesn't want to embrace his vampiric nature he wants to get rid of it. If you want my imput, give him the AD and Lifesteal but not the Movement speed as well. If anything put he can't be affected by stuns while like this to replace the MS. It would make sense Lore wise as well as be more fair.

Now these are just a few ideas from a reviewer who's reviewing skills haven't been rated at all. Better help can be offered by Moby the White, Flames of Terror, Zarkof, etc. though it doesn't mean this should just be ignored, it just means consider everything, do some research. I did my best not to change his kit entirely and to keep his playstyle still very much assassin like. I wish you the best of luck in this concept and I hope to see it improved greatly.

 
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02-21-2013

HL actually summed up all of my points. I'm just going to point out a bit of math.

W at rank 5: Passively grants 10% lifesteal and move speed. Tripled during ult to 30%

R at rank 3: Grants 40% lifesteal, 50% increased damage to champions, and 30% move speed.

Result: Press R, get 70% lifesteal and 60% move speed. And an extra 50% damage to champions.

Now build a Ravenous Hydra and you have massive AoE damage and lifesteal.

 
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02-21-2013

Heroic, thank you so much! I've only been playing league for a few months, I knew Lionell was op but he's in the process of being made with the play style im offering but not cheap and unfair to the enemy team. I'll make some changes and please give me more input

Into the darkness, his Q. I feel like its OP in the sense that if he wants to wait till hes close to death then press Q, run and W he is a free man. So tell me what you think about the changes I made for that also.

In fact I feel these changes are helping his play style, going prone and jumping from champ to champ to disrupt an enemy team.

 
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Fank Frankerton ?? Member
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02-22-2013

bump

 
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02-23-2013

Bump.

c'mon guys help me out with this, I feel like a champ with this playstyle would be really fun to play as.

 
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02-25-2013

Bump.

I'm making changes, making him more fair with the same playstyle in mind.

Please feedback and criticism!

 
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Titanomagnus ?? Senior Member
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02-26-2013

Criticism?

As long as he don't sparkle, I will welcome him with open arms.

We really do need a REAL vampire (I spit on Evelyn and Vlad, they suck).

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