Originally Posted by ryze is hard
I don't see the big deal with garen anymore, sure his early game laning is ******ed but come late/mid-game his damage is ignorable and he can't initiate for ****, hes rather useless.
Vlad is meh, I've still been able to AP carry but hes lost his touch, but I've never thought hes been ban worthy >.>
Vlad was ban worthy before Transfusion got nerfed. I played him, he was just stupid. I was sitting halfway across the lane and transing them at their tower while last hitting everything and keeping full health before it got nerfed.
Garen is just a stupid ban. Can he kill you if you're ****ing stupid and walk directly into a bush when Garen and Taric are mia? Yes. Could you just not run into the bush? For the love of god, ****ing yes.