Originally Posted by Phreak
I think the unfortunate thing here is that people keep thinking Madred's is the anti-tank item.
Beating tanks means go Last Whisper with heavy physical items like Infinity Edge. Also the biggest thing about beating tanks is actually last hitting as a carry. You must get ahead of their level curve with your item pacing. The simple fact is that tanky champions scale with level while DPS champions scale with items. Because it's fairly difficult to prevent players from leveling, it's on the individual skill of the player to maximize their own gold income.
This is all nice and sounds cool, but as you said they gain advantage while they level, while a carry scales with items.
How much a Last Whisper and Infinity Edge cost? Lot's of money.
Boots, wards, (oracle if needed). You farm farm farm farm and farm... by the the time you got this items you are:
1. dead because you got towerdived like hell
2. you can't farm simply because you can't kill em and they dominate the jungle
Basicly you lost the game. As far as I could see from pro players usually get an IE by 18-20 mins into game, based on their luck (got kills or not).
20 mins into the game you already lost most of the time.
They gain level faster then you gain gold. I'm not a pro, but I know how to last hit. I always last hit minions if I can, but that ain't gonna give you ****, when two god **** tanks just charges at you at your OWN tower and ain't give a **** about it.
Furthermore gaining levels is much easier compared to gaining gold. Even If I last hit well (which usually happens, except when I try out new heroes and going first time with em) my teammates under certain circumstances can't do very well.
For example, I laned with my friend last night as a Karth (tried him) and he as a Poppy (okay, not the best lane combination I know, we just had fun and Poppy is the worst farmer in the game) and a Mordekaiser raped us like no tomorrow with simple defensive items. He solo-laned. He didn't last hit at all, or basicly he didn't care about it. (I got more last with Karth then he did). He came back with two basic regen items+boot+negatron cloak at lvl 7 (nearly lvl 8) towerdived and killed our poppy from full health. Just like that.
Tower killing me? Pffft. Ignore it. Where's the skill at that? Nowhere. Btw that mrode was lvl 15 while our poppy was lvl 19. Was it fair? No. Even both of us+tower coudnt kill the ****er.