Well, I have to admit, banning someone for foul language isn't very professional. Especially when Riot programmed in a chat filter. If you or any staff member has a problem with foul language, turn on the chat filter. If Riot has a problem with foul language and cyber bullies (as much as I hate them myself) its best to make it publicly known that foul language is not allowed. In my mind, I automatically assume that because LoL has a chat filter, if I turn off my chat filter, I can use the kind of language blocked by it.

On the other hand, Pendragon is a very respectable person. I had an isssue that I was giving him hell for, and even though it ended up not being his problem, he was still very calm and cool even through the hell I was giving him. Although I somewhat agree with the fact that this kid shouldn't have been banned, he obviously seems a little dull in the head.

There is trashtalk... and then there is abusive trashtalk.

Taunting your enemies by calling them noobs or losers or pointing out that you rule this or that lane is all ok.

Going into the fine words that are banned on this forum is too far. Especially if you keep doing it, again and again and again, OH AND WITH CAPS thrown in too. I hate that, and if I had the ban button, I'd push it too.

I'm fairly confident that Pendragon did not misuse his authority in this case. I'll remain so until chatlogs are provided, and showing only mild game talk.

I do not think its ok that racial or sexual slurs are "the norm" for trash talking. The vast silent majority does not find it amusing. How do I know that? - Because the norm gravitates toward the middle, and most people do not trashtalk excessively.

Hey simmer down now.

There's a difference between being new to a game and ****ing up and just being a ******bag. Yes, noobs are annoying and there are games lost because of a single feeder. Teach them to be better, and they won't **** up as much (if they don't improve, they'll probably stop playing soon enough; sooner or later, everyone falls into the niche they enjoy).

On the other hand, talking **** constantly, especially to, as Adonis says, "the 1 guy who has unchecked authority to ban anyone at will" is even dumber.

Look, being a ******bag ruins the game for more people than being new does. Most people who are annoyed by this won't say anything about it because then the trash talking turns on them. They don't want it around at all, but tell people to shut up never seems to have the effect you want.

The implication I'm getting from some people in this thread is that it's perfectly ok to troll constantly in the game. Since one person in particular had the (mis)fortune of doing this to someone who could do something about it, why the **** are you complaining about it? Here's a better solution than to accuse someone of cheating and assert that "it's totally normal to be a ****, everyone loves it" - Stop being a troll. Stop acting like a ******. Play the game and find another way to exercise your ego.

Hey, sylvio, are you trying to say that nobody protects you when you play when you're mildly squishy? He had no HP items on him - in a team fight, who doesn't try to save their buddies?

For that matter, who says the rule of game development is that the designers have to be the best at it? Are the people at Activision the best as Guitar Hero? Get off your own **** high horse.

Of course new ones keep appearing. Do you think Riot made a game so just a few people could enjoy it? Part of the learning curve is starting at the bottom. Everybody is new at some point and some take to the game quicker than others will. the fact that they ignore it sucks, but there's a gray area between 'stop feeding them, that's stupid' and 'you're a ****ing idiot'. Things that lean towards the latter serve the same purpose as the former, except you're being a ****** about it.


Who says it needs to be a good and just decision? The Moderating Team sees fit to give Pendragon the power to do this and i have doubts that it's because he's prone to abuse of power. One ban doesn't constitute abuse of power.

As a secondary point, having a userbase of ******bags ruins the game for everyone, so banning one because he's clearly acting like a ****, then posts a butthurt thread about it crying 'cheating' and 'abuse of power' and hiding behind 'well it couldn't possibly be Pendragon' is stupid. Surprisingly enough, there are consequences for actions.

To reiterate my point - there's a line between complaining about it and instructing them on the proper way to do it and being a ****. People respond to different learning cues, and negative intensives breed hostility. You can achieve the same thing without the hostility, without acting out because you're mad about a single game that bears little impact on your larger score. Now, you're defense of acting like a **** is 'grow a pair' and that 'it's a learning mechanism'. I've pointed out the faults in the latter, and for the former: we all know that that cry is another excuse to rage on people to make yourself feel better/superior. Yes, there is such a thing as being too senstive to criticism, and I'm not defending every idiot with that. The question is: Is it necessary? **** no. The consequences of people doing ****ty things is ****ty things happening to them. Generally speaking, it's a loss for the profile. As we've seen, it could be a ban. You will never get someone to do what you want by acting like a raging **** towards them. All you do is make them hostile towards you, which encourages them to continue whatever ******ed things they're doing. Growing a pair also includes - patience for people who don't know how to play the game properly, recognizing that you're acting like a ****** and stopping and taking your losses as they come and finding a better way of dealing with the situation.


It's naive to believe that people don't deliberately aggravate others for their own enjoyment. You can hide it behind 'learning mechanisms', but how often do you see results from your negative intensives? How often do people continue the aggravation for their own amusement? This is a troll, my friend.

I have my doubts. People don't get moderating positions by being immature, and I'm sure that this one ban of someone who clearly sounds like a ****head doesn't negatively impact the game or the reputation of the mod involved. I've already said that sylvio is acting butthurt by posting a poorly written thread complaining of perceived injustice. Judging the situation (admittedly imperfectly), he is acting far more butthurt than the mod was, for reasons i've already explained. The reaction wasn't immature, it was justified. You mouth off to authority and there are consequences.

It is, as they say, a negative intensive.


The fact that it's a social norm is no defense. At one point, racism was a social norm. At one point, slavery was the social norm. It's not a matter of who can deal with it and who can't. Most people have thick enough skin to understand when people complain of them acting stupid. The truly butthurt are those who deliberately Alt+F4 out of a game, or refuse to play because they they see others performing poorly. You can't win every game, but you can find a group of people that you play well with, then play with them. If you're playing solo, it's luck of the draw for your team, and you have to accept that that's the case.