Originally Posted by YangTianChou

not true at all, you don't know if their skill/ult is on cool down or not, and even it is not on cool down, they might not have enough mana for it.

plus for kayle and zilean even they could survive from your ult they will still waste their ult. which means team fight less annoying.

p.s. sona heal for 130...that won't save her.. agren have 25 additional mr passive which will not save him... galio's shield only work on other team member.. lux' bubble shield very less amount, malph's stone sheild only refresh if he not been attack for 7 sec, yi's meditate will not save him from requiem most of the time since it is slow heal and have low health.

oh.. if you have so much problem with mr, perhaps you should grab void staff.

Originally Posted by Ticklestick

So much wrong in one post... my brain almost imploded.

Kayle and zilean have lower cds on their ults than karthus, it's a bad trade. 130 health absolutely can save someone, Garen's active reduces damage by 30%, Galio can shield himself. Lux's shield scales decently and can shrug off 5-700 damage depending on what stage of the game. Yi's meditate increases his armor and MR by a MASSIVE amount.

Originally Posted by Nerfabull

you forgot shaco a good shaco can use his ult to stop all the dmg from karthus ult

Originally Posted by Guneagle

this is a general list, their are oubvious exeptions, due to CD's, and the situation, but these are people who have a way of blocking some of the damage, or living

edit: READ THE END OF THE POST BEFORE U TROLL

-alistar (ult)
-anivia (egg)
-blitz (mana sheild)
-galio (kinda, beware of very high MR, + his sheild)
-GP (depending on his remove scurvery, i wouldnt ult a questionable kill)
-garen (damage reduc)
-janna (bubble)
-karma (has a sheild + a heal)
-kayle (ult + heal)
-lux (bubble)
-malph (stone sheild)
-Morgana (spell sheild)
-yi (meditate)
-Nasus (ult heals, but RARELY ever will this stop you)
-Nidalee (heal)
-Nunu (rarely ever, but consume could save him)
-poppy (i beleive her passive applies to reqium)
-rammus (defensive curl)
-renekton (same as nasus's ult, but rarely ever the case)
-shen (has a sheild)
-sion (has a sheild)
-sivir (built in banshees veil)
-sona (heal)
-soroka (2 heals, + MR passive)
-swain (ult heals, but rarely the case)
-taric (relatively high self heal)
-trynd (if he still has endless rage)
-udyr (turtle stance)
-urgot (sheild)
-vlad
zil (his ult is a rez)

this is simply a list of people who have a way of deceiving you, alot of them are ultable 95% of the time, but have a way of living

for example, chances are, tryndamere will have already ult'd, but if he hasnt.. then he could save himself with it.

if you see anything wrong, correct me!!!

if not, bump, and dont rage after your ult's fail

Originally Posted by YangTianChou

6)zilean's ult have 180 sec cool down.... while karthus's ult have 120 sec.. so it is still fair trade

Originally Posted by 0TsarBomb0

Zilean has a whole skill devoted to making his CDs shorter.