It's a 3v3. We have No stuns it's a random. Okay so beginning of the game, I grab Warden's Mail + Ninja Tabi on tryndamere. I'm about level 10. I figure grabbing some defense items because of Shaco on the other team was a good idea.

But here's where this game always fails. Me and Shaco get into a 2v1 fight VS him, and he wins because of lifesteal and excessive damage.

Shaco is an assassin, and he takes more damage than most heroes because of lifesteal + Hallucinate. He just sat there tanking all of us every single time, and he was 2 hitting our Karthus (dead within 2 seconds). Oracle is a complete waste of money and a ****ty counter to shaco, especially when he kills you so easily.

He's overpowered because he isn't squishy enough, and does way WAY too much damage for having a stealth advantage. What am I supposed to do?

another rage thread on who is overpowered.
Please, please, please do not compare heroes based on 3v3 Twisted Treeline map. Remember this game's main map is 5v5 map. Shaco is designed based on that situation. Any, I mean ANY hero that is strong on 1v1 can and will dominate on 3v3 Twisted Treeline.

when was oracle's a counter to shaco?
wards man... use dem wards planting them in bushes and such will let you know when he's coming...
his stealth only lasts like 6 seconds anyways... -_-

your thread will be thumbed down till it closes. cuz you are wrong.

shaco tanking? lol thats a laugh.


sounds like you guys fed shaco and your raging because he became so powerful. Any champ that gets fed will dominate the other team.


aside from that, karthus is ultra squishy and extremely slow, so why anyone would pick such a fragile character, who relys on damage over time, on such a small map, is beyond me. Overall just sounds like you had a very very bad team.

You and Shaco couldn't take down Shaco so Shaco is OP.

Did I get that right?