For clarification, will clairvoyance and sight wards (and Teemo shrooms, etc) give any vision of Twitch and Evelynn, or does the stealth detection belong uniquely to champions? Also, would pets such as Tibbers reveal them?

Hi guys!

I've been working on the Eve and Twitch remakes that coincide with the stealth remake. I'll try to post details soon and get some community feedback on it.

This looks pretty awesome, and seems like it's being well-received, but what about stealth as an escape mechanic? I can't count the times I've lost an eve or twitch when they run from backdooring a tower and stealth into the jungle, and annoying as it is, it seems like one of their more attractive features.

Is the difference between the regular-vision and stealth-vision bubbles small enough that this won't be affected, or what?

Question to Xyph:

Is Twitch a carry with invisibility(stealth)? Or an invisible character(stealther) that can carry?

The difference?

#1
Twitch is a ranged AD carry due to his ultimate, damage and attack speed bonus. Invisibility is just a bonus. He'll mainly be farming bot with a support. But will sometime sneak out for a gank.

#2
Twitch is mainly an assassin. He mainly sneaks and roams across the map picking him easy targets. Once roaming is too unsafe, he'll transition to an AD carry role.

Is Twitch becoming more carry'ish or more assassin'ish?

I'm not asking to revert the chance on his ultimate but it currently feels very lacking.

It appears that this eye particle is similar in implementation of "the ball" distance for Orianna. What an interesting way to take one mechanic and apply it to sight.

I'm sure it is much more complicated than I make it seem, but I am impressed that Mr. Xypherous could create such an awesome champion, and then also make great design changes to stealth champions.

Interesting changes, I like how you are going for stealth as more of something that allows you to move around unseen vs something that lets you gank someone with no hope of detection outside of pink ward/oracles.

This still lets stealth have its use in helping out setting up a gank, and is still very good for avoiding wards(if you decide to let normal wards not see stealth). This also lets you have functionality of undetectable stealth if you ever wanted it for say an ultimate as well.

How will this effect the price of Oracles/Pink Wards, as they would now be losing one of their primary purposes of countering stealth characters? I cannot imagine much change there since we did not see Eve/Twitch around very often anyway, but have you given it any thoughts?