Originally Posted by Shurelia

The only solution that has been tossed around that I think would work is split resource sharing in duo lanes, but its a really big change that really will flip a game mechanic upside down.

Originally Posted by Shurelia

Yes we actually discussed that in our last support meeting. I think it is a very fun idea.

It solves some of the sustain problem, but doesn't solve the "supports don't want to farm" problem.

Originally Posted by Uccisore

Eh? All that would do is give the support more gold for not farming. How does that help anything?

Originally Posted by standin

Something that was brought up in another topic:


Abliet slight exaggeration, it's the truth. And I remember Shurelia somewhere stating she supports the current meta where supports get basically just aura items and be a ward ***** the whole time. Mildly scary thought since she is going to be in charge of the whole support remake. This isn't to say I hate Shurelia, or anything like that, I love the work she has done. Rework Ryze being a perfect example of that. And she's been quite supportive in talking with the community currently. Then again, so are most Reds. But this sidenote is becoming a rant.

My main point is I worry with the current design direction, it'll make it impossible for supports to truly be anything more than be a ward-bot(when warding should be the responsibility of the team- and if not the team at least the jungler should be helping the support as well with map control), get one or maybe two aura items if they're lucky, and throw out incredibly weak heals/stuns/sheilds or what have you, since they were unable to build any ap to make their abilities more powerful.

With these constant changes, it'll eventually make only a support like Janna, who has a lot of CC, the only useful support in the game. And then she'll be OP in comparison to other supports and nerfed down to their level too. Or maybe not, since I do remember Morello stating somewhere Janna was a support whose design he absolutely loved. That last part is more or less a"ridiculous" prediction, but eh.

It's funny how this whole emergence has happened. Because months ago, back when this wasn't the popular playstyle, everyone still got their items effectively and supports were able to get items that made their abilities stronger for better support capabilities AND get aura items. And were still able to ward effectively as well. And their lane partners were still able to get their builds off in a decently quick time as well. We've sacrificed that equilibrium for a mentality which essentially make supports aura/ward bots.

I'm not claiming supports have been made useless by any means, I'm just saying their overall potential has been vastly reduced. They still have the ability to support now, it's just inherently weaker. And while the mentality changes have made their lane partners stronger overall (arguably not so since the gold nerfs have also affected them as well, but I won't get into that here), it still makes for a game with a weakened ally.

My question would be, rhetoric or not, are these changes, both direct and indirect, that have limited a supports potential, worth the benefits it has given to the other players? I'd argue not, since that support has now had their abilities, which are a huge part of their support, weakened.

Good points brought up by other posters that I hope Riot will read: