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Elementz 5v5 Tier List (Draft Mode)

 
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Karait ?? Senior Member
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10-23-2010

What da ****?

Im gone for 2 days and garen is the same tier w/ zil?

 
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rEkcAh ?? Senior Member
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10-23-2010

I read his post and wasnt impressed. It seems he hasnt played varied games of people who are good with "uncommon" champions.

 
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Mizzary ?? Junior Member
10-23-2010

Nasus should NOT have moved down to tier 4.
That is all

 
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Covenant ?? Senior Member
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10-23-2010

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What da ****?

Im gone for 2 days and garen is the same tier w/ zil?
And Zilean is above Olaf? Really? Bomb harassment brings something more unique and valuable than the fastest jungler with CC ignoring true damage spamming violence?

 
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QaenyinSerahl ?? Senior Member
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10-23-2010

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Elementz you might not notice but with the recent fixes to eve, She is better then Yi at every single thing he does. If yi is even on your tier list then Eve needs to be atleast infront of him. She literally does everything better. Better backdoorer, better team fight viability due to massive heal. Better ult refreshment. Beter duration ult at early levels, better jungling, stealth. Better burst. Seriously. The only thing Yi has is slow immunity on ult. Which is underwhelming when by the time u kill one hero you about to die yourself. When eve kills a hero she has went from soon to die to 75% hp instantly.

AD eve is massively better at yi at evertyhing he does. She should definitely be moved up. Not to mention they have to buy wards and oracles to not have eve completely rickroll them all game. Eve is also one of the only heroes who could give a rats ass about oracles. Her movespeed is so fast she can get in and get out better then any hero in the game thats stealth.
Better jungling my ass >_>

Yi is one of the best junglers out there. Eve is barely passable. They're roughly equal late game but early game eve is way worse than Yi.

 
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10-24-2010

Elementz, just throwing this out there, but I think Malphite better fits the role of anti carry, not as a team's main tank/initiator.
Lets face it, his R is illikely to hit more than 2 targets, but its true potency lies in the fact that its basically a 2 second unmigitable stun on their carry, which you can easily turn to your advantage. In addition to this the stun is usually followed up by a Q+E, or atleast an E, which will further reduce the carries health by about 500, and reduce their AS by 50% for 4 more seconds, leaving them in a weak state and easy for your team to clean up.

Although I'm not gonna argue that he belongs in t4, as he is a niche roll as a hybrid of an anticarry/assasin and a tank.

Just saying you should probably point this out in an update.

 
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GetPoopedOn ?? Senior Member
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10-24-2010

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You know what else is laughable? Having a negative W/L ratio 1300 player talking down to me. Now that's funny. Makes me laugh everytime kekeke ^^

I sat back in my chair and just admired this burn.

 
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GetPoopedOn ?? Senior Member
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I have played Rammus maybe 6 times. I am basing my opinion off of how I have seen enemy/ally Rammus' played, namely one I play with constantly. You are correct that he just isn't as good as other tanks, but normally when the reasoning behind a low ranking for a champion is that they are outshined in their role by another champ, they are done so significantly. That is, there's a big gap in viability between the two, even if the lower one is still decent.

However, with Rammus, I feel he trails by soooo little that the bottom of T2 fits him. You're right that you'd go for a Shen or Amumu first if you could, or even Garen for the DPS side of his role, but often teams don't want just 1 tank, and any 2 of those 3 are often banned. Rammus' capabilities, just as you mentioned I think two updates ago, are very solid DPS with Dependable CC.

You can't compare him directly to many of the before mentioned, because when someone brings up his CC, someone says Shen's taunt is AoE, but then forget how Rammus' decent DPS is AoE, where Shen's is not. He's just a variation of these other top tanks, a different configuration. The only reason he lags behind at all is I believe a bit of a numbers thing. Maybe his CD on his Defense Curl is a bit high to be as useful in every fight as Garen's, since Garen is much more mobile while his is up. However, Rammus' increases his DPS, so once again it's just a configuration issue.

Like I said, the numbers alone seem to be the only reason he's behind any of the others in my book, since he has all the traits of the others, but it is as if he's simply built for slightly different situations.

I have agreed with every single thing you've posted on this Tier pretty much (especially Badger Teemo), and cannot express how helpful it has been, I would just like to throw some support out for someone who I think gets a bad rap due to players being inexperienced with him, where they might normally play Shen all day and LOLURSAVED, or, I TAUNTED IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION AND FROM FARTHER AWAY, and just don't have the bit more finesse that Rammus may require, and that he also suffers from unfair comparisons that don't look at his whole picture.

Sorry for rambling, TL;DR I feel very Bottom of T2 was perfect for him.
I know I am quoting myself. I am doing so to raise the same points I made then, but now that Rammus has received some neat little buffs. Since you had him at Tier 2 for a while, I feel that you have, or at least had, a bit of internal conflict concerning his role and ability to fill it. This is just to spark a bit more discussion on him. With so many games starting out with Amumu, Galio, and Shen banned or picked by your opponents, you can easily be left with a first tank pick not having any of those options. Rammus I feel always has been a solid choice in these conditions, given the reasons stated in my previous post that I quoted here. Perhaps this can be justified a bit more with his number tweaking, as I felt simple numbers may have been a bit of what was holding him a small step behind the others in the first place. That, or perhaps you have never seen a Chrome Rammus in true action.(Ball of Angry Metal ftw.)

P.S. Pleasure getting roflstomped by you in the Alienware tournament not long ago.

TL;DR: Rammus = Angry turtle man.

 
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hopalong ?? Junior Member
10-24-2010

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i find this tier list more and more useless.. the other poster troll whatever posted a list by categories which is way more effective imo.

this list need to be broken down by categories.
It seems like over 90% of the people who down talk to Elementz or his list are either not ranked or terrible at ranked, wonder if following this tier list directly makes your ranked better? Weird concept I know, to think that one of the best players in the US could possible impart knowledge on the many LoL Gods such as this individual above.

 
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Perey ?? Senior Member
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10-24-2010

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It seems like over 90% of the people who down talk to Elementz or his list are either not ranked or terrible at ranked, wonder if following this tier list directly makes your ranked better? Weird concept I know, to think that one of the best players in the US could possible impart knowledge on the many LoL Gods such as this individual above.
solo queue status: unranked
5v5 premade status: 1500

lmao