Flash's range makes me cry. Exhaust default, eh? I'll keep it in mind.

But the AS for Manamune!!1

lolololol :P

The AP wouldn't too helpful either. It would add a couple points, but not enough to justify it. The utility and increased damage potential from exhaust are far more important for me.

Nah, I never considered Surge. It's true though that for the longest time I had no idea Ryze's damage primarily come from mana; when I played him a couple of times back when I first started, I knew so little and remembered even less.

I'll prob go Exhaust and Promote bot. I like Ghost, but no one else seems to think it's worth taking bot. Maybe not.

I've taken Ghost on him bot once, and that was in the finals with Mollica's team. This was mainly because I knew they would be ganking the lane 24/7. Otherwise you aren't going to need the mobility because you have your snare and exhaust. And yeah I still wouldn't take promote off him; it's just too useful early/mid game. I think if they were to improve it a bit, they could improve the health and damage of the promoted minion lategame to compensate for the extreme damage most champions will have at that point.

hay nekrogen, is the OP still your take on how it's done?

I've experimented with ryze a little, haven't yet taken the plunge to buy mana runes just for him, I suspect he isn't going to really jam without them if the opponent is any good

I've updated it, but I haven't touched it in a while.

Only thing I would say now is to only upgrade to WotA from revolver much much later because of the WotA nerf. Revolver should suffice.

... **** this thread is old. Ryze is still ridiculously powerful.

Thanks for the update. This is a good guide. Will you make others?

And more importantly, when are you streaming today?

Man haven't seen this in a while. Had to dredge it up to show that people used to think Ryze was a bad pusher. Ahuehuahuehauhea

Ryze is a bad pusher early game.

Whatcha' talkin' 'bout Willis?!

Nekrealgen