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My Opinion on the V8 Situation

 
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The Hozz Ad Sona ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

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Originally Posted by Catboots View Post
so if I understand this all correctly, TL;DR Phantom secured sponsorship to pay for you guys to travel around and be a gaming team, and you were shocked to discovered he expected to be a part of the team he was captaining/managing?

pay your own way next time.
yeah but playing professionally includes.. well, you know.. PLAYING PROFESSIONALLY. I'm kinda getting the feeling that PL felt like his spot was secured in v8 because he was managing it, but in the end, it's about playing the **** game. If his performance was affecting the team negatively since champion selection, well ****, they had to do something about it. I does sound that things could've been handed a little better, but emotions were running high and everyone was in a rush because of the tournaments. It's not like the team didn't try to do something about it beforehand. And I'm with Tree on this one not because I like him, but because I could smell PL blatantly trying to make himself look like a victim today in SotL from a mile away. I just can't believe so many people bought it right away without hearing the other side of the story when it was obvious to me.

 
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A Hungry Grue ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

Wow. I thought you were the bad guys, but this clears **** up.

****, sorry for ever doubting you Tree.

 
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FullmetalKite ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

Well this just sounds like a major mishandling of the situation by both sides. I wish v8 the best of luck in the future but you guys really dropped the ball in both game play and communication here.

 
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edtehgar ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

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Originally Posted by bajiit View Post
that sounds like a manager who wishes to enjoy the event he's spent hours planning. if his team doesn't tell him "if you manage don't play more games, doesn't matter if you're managing, you're not playing" they would constructively be telling him how he could change his actions to reach his endgame goals. if you're not confronting people with reality, expecting them to read your mind or draw the conclusions you make in group discussions you're doing something wrong.

needless to say, PL should obviously have practiced more, and more champions. v8 as a whole looked weak in every lane and in the jungle though...
How much can they tell him if he didnt care to listen. didnt want to get better and didnt want to practice.

And would it really kill him to not go to 1 tourney if it made the team better?

 
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Chzrm3 ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

Actually, I remember watching tree's stream one night, and Phantom was playing as Annie. He was surprisingly bad with her - he kept missing Tibbers, and at one point flashed over a wall into the enemy team and was insta-killed.

Tree tried to explain to Phantom that this isn't how you played Annie, and Phantom responded by trying to blame other people on the team or just insist that what he did was fine. At one point Tree even said "PHANTOM, you can't even see your own mistakes!"

Not surprising that it culminated in this. : (

 
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Opreich ?? Senior Member
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10-18-2011

Watching Phantom read this on his stream now.

Incoming ****storm.

 
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I am the Walrus ?? Senior Member
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10-19-2011

Ditching someone you once knew as a friend is always hard, gl.

 
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CritFromTheBong ?? Senior Member
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10-19-2011

This phantom sounds like a ****** bag. I read the entire thing btw. Good for you guys **** that guy.

 
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Smeckledorf ?? Senior Member
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10-19-2011

If people are going by what this person has said, how could you possibly side with PL? He was clearly in the wrong, and on top of that he chose his own personal greed and laziness over helping the team win. IF someone won't learn a new champion for the team then that person doesn't belong on the team. There are no ifs, ands, or buts. There is a reason why we call a group of people a team and not some random group of people, it's because they work together to promote the success of each other and the team as a whole.

TL;DR/QED: PL did not deserve a place on the team.

Disclaimer: I am only going on what I read, if anything the topic starter has said is wrong then that may change the basis of my opinion.

 
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Tyko ?? Senior Member
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10-19-2011

could've had a v8.