Hey there this isn't a QQ thread about post-nerf Talon. I was hoping for advice on helping Talon's laning phase now that Rake can't be used as frequently as it was a big part of how I played Talon in lane.

Before the mana cost nerf I could spam Rake all day erryday and it would keep my opponent low. I could last hit more easily as they were afraid to approach. Now, when I can't harass as much I'm the one getting harassed and I have to play more passively and lose out on cs.

My question is what are some adjustments you can make to Talon's build/playstyle to lane more easily?

1) Mana Regen/5 runes

Saving up the IP for these but I'd imagine it helps out a lot and the mana cost of Rake wouldn't be as noticeable. Can anyone who runs these testify?

2) Maxing Q over W first

I know some people chose to max Q before W because it is a bulk of Talon's damage and now this seems to be a more tempting alternative. I haven't tried it out yet so if someone who typically goes this route can say something.

3) Match-ups to avoid as Talon

Riot has said Talon's weakness is suppose to be sustain and I think these changes have succeeded in making that so. Are there certain champs (particularly those with decent sustain) that you should avoid laning against as Talon?

I max Q first over W and use W as the combo opener full combo going W>E>Q

I destroy talon as nasus now, he runs oom too fast. Pretty mcuh all sustain ruins him now at top. Mid is easier for him but top he shodl rush philo

Manamune..