when i was trolling the pre-patch notes the day before i heard mixed feelings on veigars ult and about ashe being in every single game and kog'maw being op, but i learned to never trust anyone on the forums ever again, what happened in the games i played:

-not a single ashe
-kog' maw is the squishiest champ for my main being tank shaco >
- veigar is horrible
- and i wasted my time reading 107 pages of people complaining and raging

but how i love you lol community i will be commenting on the forums much much more