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[Re-Work] Quicksilver Sash

 
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TROWAHC ?? Member
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08-09-2010

An interesting re-work to say the least. But may I place a sugestion of not health but the cloth armor with the null-magic mantle to create the quicksilver sash and say at this point make it something that is like the old cleanse but not allow it to remove summoner spells.

This would make it useful for tanks like rammus and malphite more as they work mostly on armor for there abilities and passives while still making it useful for all tanks, like shen and morde.

From here allow it to be built into the "trinity force" for tanks. with the heart of gold a new item that has the same passive as heat of gold but uses the saphire cyrstal and a null-magic mantle (say lets call it the cup of riches) and the quicksilver sash, so there is a item that gives good health/mana levels, magic resist, armor, and the ability to remove all debuffs including summoner spells.

This then makes a item that is the original cleanse but is not to quickly available making it more balanced in early game fights. plus this makes quicksiver sash a useful item early on like heart of gold.

 
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JGrave ?? Recruiter
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08-10-2010

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An interesting re-work to say the least. But may I place a sugestion of not health but the cloth armor with the null-magic mantle to create the quicksilver sash and say at this point make it something that is like the old cleanse but not allow it to remove summoner spells.
The point was kind of to itemize Health/Magic Resistance better. Armor/Magic Resistance already has Aegis of the Legion and Guardian Angel.... anything else added to this category would most likely be shunned.

Quicksilver Sash's main attraction currently is that it can remove Blind/Ignite/DoTs. Even if it wasn't my rework that was instituted, I wouldn't want Quicksilver Sash to remove all non-Summoner Spell debuffs. People buy it FOR that Exhaust or Ignite that they fear. It'd be used even less than now, even with a build up. Quicksilver Sash, at this moment, gets bought for its cheap debuff omni-removal.

 
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kazetenshu ?? Senior Member
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08-12-2010

Its a good thought, but tbh, i like the hefty MR+debuff removal for my dps carries. A blind and burning dps sion is a very sad panda T_T QSS ftw!

 
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Lakotor ?? Senior Member
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08-12-2010

/singed

 
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Tyson Azura ?? Senior Member
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08-13-2010

I like your thinking but for the fully combined item is 15% too much?
It just feels like it is to me I mean imagine an Alistair stunning constantly while being able to cleanse other CC if he had that and force of nature?
maybe 10%?

 
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JGrave ?? Recruiter
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08-13-2010

Spirit Visage is at 12%. If the build up was reduced... it should be no lower than its components. Sitting down to do the math 15% from Essence of Spirit, 15% from Randuin's Omen with runes would put tanks near max CDR. I don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. All-Star could use some love like that. :P

 
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zankuro14 ?? Senior Member
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08-14-2010

I am all for better magic resist items as the are they are under powered in the game. u have a variety of shields to choose from which give u 90+ armor but only a banshee and FON which do not even come near to 90+ magic resist.

 
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Hallontagg ?? Junior Member
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08-17-2010

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The point was kind of to itemize Health/Magic Resistance better. Armor/Magic Resistance already has Aegis of the Legion and Guardian Angel.... anything else added to this category would most likely be shunned.

Quicksilver Sash's main attraction currently is that it can remove Blind/Ignite/DoTs. Even if it wasn't my rework that was instituted, I wouldn't want Quicksilver Sash to remove all non-Summoner Spell debuffs. People buy it FOR that Exhaust or Ignite that they fear. It'd be used even less than now, even with a build up. Quicksilver Sash, at this moment, gets bought for its cheap debuff omni-removal.
The thing with aegis is that there isnt an equivalent for AP users though, which would be nice tbh, interesting suggestions you´ve done though.

Btw Haunting Guise (which I find a nice item but not using since it lacks any upgrade) could join with something or upgrade into an item which is similar to Aegis but more "caster (ap user)" oriented. Just a stray thought.

 
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JGrave ?? Recruiter
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08-17-2010

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The thing with aegis is that there isnt an equivalent for AP users though, which would be nice tbh, interesting suggestions you´ve done though.

Btw Haunting Guise (which I find a nice item but not using since it lacks any upgrade) could join with something or upgrade into an item which is similar to Aegis but more "caster (ap user)" oriented. Just a stray thought.
For caster that needs Armor AND Magic Resistance on the same item Guardian Angel is hands-down fantastic considering that Rod of Ages and Rylai's already give casters attractive health choices.

I agree that Haunting Guise needs an upgrade, but I wouldn't combine it with Quicksilver Sash. Zhonya's fills the "Defensive Active" role quite swimmingly already.

 
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D3Reap3R ?? Member
08-19-2010

Increase the Healing and Regeneration of Essence of Spirit to improve it a little further, like to 25%, seeing as for the costs the effect is not adequate. However, your ideas are good. I like them a lot; Approved!