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Mr. Ambassador please answer my question

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BigBoyNow ?? Senior Member
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01-23-2012

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Back when this was created
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01-23-2012

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1. You missed the point. I play nothing but bronze-silver range solo ranked where common language is markedly different. I should be judged by people I have a chance of playing with not some random subset of the community skewed by responder bias.
If the common language is markedly different in your ELO range and is accepted by the community you play in then I imagine you wouldn't have to worry about being reported in the first place.

Ultimately though, the Summoner's Code is the guiding document for ALL levels of play in League of Legends, so it matters little where and how you play.

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StevEazy ?? Senior Member
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01-23-2012

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I guess the question you should be asking yourself is. Does such behavior violate the Summoner's Code?

You can check out the Summoner's Code here:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/articl...Summoners_Code

To be honest with you, each of the phrases you stated, minus ''dam BerZerKeR you are getting owned'' looks to me like it violates almost every one of the points of the Summoner's Code.

You're right that this is the internet, and people shouldn't be surprised. But I would argue that just because some players can get away with being a jerk in other games doesn't mean they should be able to get away with it here.

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I appreciate you answering my question, Thank you. I can see tribunal being unhealthy to the future of league of legends population growth but I am sure when you guys become aware of the issue you will take action.

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Shrinking Violet ?? Senior Member
01-23-2012

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If the common language is markedly different in your ELO range and is accepted by the community you play in then I imagine you wouldn't have to worry about being reported in the first place.
Except that the tribunal is supposed to weed out reports of behavior such as champion choice, perceived skill level, ect. and it can't in this case. Based on your last several posts, you seem to be under the impression that the case generating algorithm is enough. It's not.

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Ultimately though, the Summoner's Code is the guiding document for ALL levels of play in League of Legends, so it matters little where and how you play.

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You already admitted that the Summoner's code needs to be subjectively interpreted...

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StevEazy ?? Senior Member
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01-23-2012

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I guess the question you should be asking yourself is. Does such behavior violate the Summoner's Code?

You can check out the Summoner's Code here:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/articl...Summoners_Code

To be honest with you, each of the phrases you stated, minus ''dam BerZerKeR you are getting owned'' looks to me like it violates almost every one of the points of the Summoner's Code.

You're right that this is the internet, and people shouldn't be surprised. But I would argue that just because some players can get away with being a jerk in other games doesn't mean they should be able to get away with it here.

-RoreBAWW
Riot Ambassador
I appreciate you answering my question, Thank you. I can see tribunal being unhealthy to the future of league of legends population growth but I am sure when you guys become aware of the issue you will take action if it happens.

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01-23-2012

Shrinking how old are you then? Not asking to be mean or anything.

But lets say your 24 then by your logic only those age 24 in tribunal would be able to vote on your case and if they still vote you guilty would you then accept their verdict since they're a jury of your peers by your own standard you linked.

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Shrinking Violet ?? Senior Member
01-23-2012

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Today, however, it is a jury of your fellow citizens. Anyone filling a certain profile such as: If you are charged with robbery your lawyer would like your peers to be people who have not been robbed.
Your point?

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Shrinking Violet ?? Senior Member
01-23-2012

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Shrinking how old are you then? Not asking to be mean or anything.

But lets say your 24 then by your logic only those age 24 in tribunal would be able to vote on your case and if they still vote you guilty would you then accept their verdict since they're a jury of your peers by your own standard you linked.
Not even remotely applicable.

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01-23-2012

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Except that the tribunal is supposed to weed out reports of behavior such as champion choice, perceived skill level, ect. and it can't in this case. Based on your last several posts, you seem to be under the impression that the case generating algorithm is enough. It's not.
For accusing somebody of not providing information before reaching a conclusion, you reach a lot of conclusions without providing any information.

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You already admitted that the Summoner's code needs to be subjectively interpreted...
When?

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"gg newbs" is a statement which contradicts the Summoner's Code.

Specifically:

Point II. Drive Constructive Feedback
Point III. Facilitate Civil Discussion
Point VI. Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat
I don't see anything there that is subjective.

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BungalowBill ?? Senior Member
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01-23-2012

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Your point?
So according to you we have the perfect tribunal peers for you. Since the people who are judging you apparently don't have to live with constant harassing since nor do they play at the same Elo than you since all they play are bot games.

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