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Poll: Last-hitting, yay or nay

View Poll Results: Do you like having to last-hit for gold?
Yes, I enjoy the last-hitting mechanic 765 62.25%
No, I would prefer not to have to last-hit to earn minion gold 327 26.61%
I'm indifferent 137 11.15%
Voters: 1229. You may not vote on this poll

 
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Randith ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

1. Play Mordekaiser.
2. Last hit everything in sight.... without even trying.
3. ????????
4. Profit.


Some champions just have the ability to creep farm far easier than others.
IE: Graves/Sivir vs Vayne/Ezreal

When your champion has abilities that allow you to generate gold a lot more quickly than other champs, it creates a bit of an imbalance. This is one of the reasons why you can gank Mordekaiser all throughout the game, and still lose to his ability to push.

 
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Akai Tsuki ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

Out of the people who vote they enjoy it, which map do you prefer? Summoner's Rift or Crystal Scar? What about those who voted they do not like it?

I voted for enjoying last hitting and prefer Summoner's Rift over Crystal Scar.

 
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SquirrelRocket ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Aimewow View Post
Posting here to: No. When playing as a ranged AD I feel bad for taking farm away from others, and as a support/tank, whatever, I hate how I'm expected and incapable of getting farm. I'll happily be weaker late game as long as the support/tank is stronger.
OMG! Never play AD carry again! When you are AD carry it is your job to take all the farm that you possibly can. Anything less than this is a disservice to your team. You are the one who needs the gold, you are the one who needs to get fed, you are the one who needs to complete your build so that you will be strong enough to bring your team to victory. It is not Soraka's job, it is not Alistar's job, it is not Leona's job, it is your job. Don't feel bad for taking farm, feel bad for not taking farm and gimping your team.

 
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SavageMinnow ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

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Originally Posted by SquirrelRocket View Post
If you don't like last hitting, then LoL on the SR map isn't your game. Dominion might be a better fit.

I don't understand why not liking a game mechanic is an excuse to be bad at it. You might want to think about playing something else.
This is completely true. If you're playing the game, you can't declare that "the system isn't good so it's not me playing poorly, it's just me waiting for a better system." You're playing within a set of rules, if you want to be skilled you need to follow them. If you don't like them, find a game you do like, with a system that works for you.

That doesn't mean others can bash you for suggesting different ways to do things. Anyone saying "Lol anyone who suggests changing the last-hit mechanic is just bad" is stupid. There are strong players that don't particularly like the idea as much as they like some alternative they've seen or thought of, but they're also not too lazy to learn it if they plan to play the game.

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Originally Posted by Akai Tsuki View Post
Out of the people who vote they enjoy it, which map do you prefer? Summoner's Rift or Crystal Scar? What about those who voted they do not like it?

I voted for enjoying last hitting and prefer Summoner's Rift over Crystal Scar.
I enjoy it, and play almost entirely Summoner's Rift. I play some Twisted Treeline too, but no one cares about that

One of the main reasons I enjoy last-hitting is because I can often gauge my performance in lane by comparing CS between myself and my opponent, as well as other lanes. As I primarily play solo top, it's a straight-up CS competition in many games.

 
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SquirrelRocket ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

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I admit, it's pretty bad that I can kill the enemy three times (and I have to go back each time since he gets me low) and on the fourth fight he kills me instead. I look at scoreboard and see he has 30 more cs than me because he's just naturally better at last hitting, takes it more seriously, etc.

A "watch the health bar" minigame shouldn't be more important than pushing lanes, harassing, and killing. Something needs to be fixed.
Get better. Learn to kill and last hit.

 
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Syncline ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

Removing last-hitting doesn't remove a lot of skill from the game. It shifts the demand for skill from one area to another. Taking away last-hitting makes champion vs champion fighting more important. Isn't that what this game is supposed to be?

 
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ActionButlerGO ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

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Originally Posted by Akai Tsuki View Post
Out of the people who vote they enjoy it, which map do you prefer? Summoner's Rift or Crystal Scar? What about those who voted they do not like it?

I voted for enjoying last hitting and prefer Summoner's Rift over Crystal Scar.
I voted in favor of last hitting and prefer Crystal Scar. I don't know why people think last hitting in Dominion isn't helpful. Yes, there is the passive gold gain, but last hitting for extra gold gets me my core items that much faster. Besides, pushing minion waves is one of the most underrated strategies on Dominion.

 
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Warbéar ?? Senior Member
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01-27-2012

ITT people that think call of duty is fun. Vs people that play MOBAs.

 
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No one wants to dumb the game down. People want to see if there are ways to make the game more enjoyable. I sincerely doubt that what you actually enjoy is the mechanic of spamming back and forth orders to your champion to time a single attack. I do believe that you do enjoy challenge and that you do enjoy dynamic high intensity interactions with your lane opponents. The thread where all this rumpus came from is about seeking ways to get more of that.

An alternative to the last hit bounty system might do just that, but it would need a drastic reexamination of nearly every other aspect of the game's design, since it is so very founded on it.
Why change the game at all? It is a good, fun game. If you are bored or frustrated, play something else.

 
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SavageMinnow ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Warbéar View Post
ITT people that think call of duty is fun. Vs people that play MOBAs.
... Can't I enjoy both? Are you trying to say something about people based on what variety of games they play, really?

Also, what the hell does CoD have to do with last-hitting, at all?