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Dr Page ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2012

I have an AP rune page and AP masteries for Ezreal, but the early game is just so hard going that route.

 
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DaFront ?? Senior Member
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Q procs sheen+ lich bane keep this in mind
W aoe nukes+ buffs and debuffs
E should be used to kite and chase dont put ur self in trouble trying to get in range
R just hit as much as u can

My build is
Max R>Q>W>E

Shoes, 2x doran ring, CD BOOTS BECAUSE Q AND LICH BANE IS PHYSICAL, Sheen, Deathcap, Lich Bane, Void staff, Situational

Early game
Farm and Spam Q, even with a little bit of ap Q still hurts with it's high base damage. Your unstoppable farming machine because of the mana regen from doran rings and your ability to farm from a range

Mid Game
Sheen hurts even more with your mystic shot and now your W are getting stronger therefore your poking potential and burst potential is getting stronger.

Late Game
AP ezreal shines late game. Your Q's do 500+ on a 2 sec CD
Your W hit 500+ aoe buff your ad carry,fighters etc with it or debuff theirs
E is still an escape but if u can get in close enough to a squishy USE IT
YOUR R IS AN AOE 1000 DAMAGE+

Runes
Magic pen/armor pene/hybrid
Mana regen
AP per level
Flat AP

AD ezreal is great early game while his late game isnt strong
AP ezreal is great late game while his early game isnt strong

Mindset
Early game ap doesn't mean shyt to ezreal because W is on a HIGH CD, HIGH MANA COST, AND CANT BE USED TO FARM
Sheen makes your Q stronger+ its already on a low CD and low mana cost
When you get your Hat and lich bane you will be very stronk
Stay FAR FAR away during teamfights, you are similar to twisted fate

Morello's evil tome:
....Why the hell
Blue+ cd boots is roughly 40% cdr
Mana is covered with doran rings and tear is cheaper
This delays your bread and butter Hat and Lich

ArchAngel staff:
dont let it fool you, this is a pretty boss item on ezreal as long as you dont rush it first. Why?
Mana regen more manageable and makes you even more spammly!
but the most important would be its late game power, Late game ezreal will have a lot of mp, therefore a lot of AP. Makes All your skills hit higher, when in doubt stack 3 of them + lich+ hat +CD boots.Real terror

What does ezreal need?
better passive
THOSE MANA COST ARE TOO DAM HIGH! W,E,R ARE RIDICULOUS

 
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Natrii89 ?? Senior Member
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02-03-2012

really to make AP viable 2 changes would help. Let W work live Anivia's Q without the stun, so it does a bit of damage for passing over minions. And make E prioritize champs.

 
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Dr Page ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DaFront View Post
Q procs sheen+ lich bane keep this in mind
W aoe nukes+ buffs and debuffs
E should be used to kite and chase dont put ur self in trouble trying to get in range
R just hit as much as u can

My build is
Max R>Q>W>E

Shoes, 2x doran ring, CD BOOTS BECAUSE Q AND LICH BANE IS PHYSICAL, Sheen, Deathcap, Lich Bane, Void staff, Situational

Early game
Farm and Spam Q, even with a little bit of ap Q still hurts with it's high base damage. Your unstoppable farming machine because of the mana regen from doran rings and your ability to farm from a range

Mid Game
Sheen hurts even more with your mystic shot and now your W are getting stronger therefore your poking potential and burst potential is getting stronger.

Late Game
AP ezreal shines late game. Your Q's do 500+ on a 2 sec CD
Your W hit 500+ aoe buff your ad carry,fighters etc with it or debuff theirs
E is still an escape but if u can get in close enough to a squishy USE IT
YOUR R IS AN AOE 1000 DAMAGE+

Runes
Magic pen
Mana regen
AP per level
Flat AP

AD ezreal is great early game while his late game isnt strong
AP ezreal is great late game while his early game isnt strong

Mindset
Early game ap doesn't mean shyt to ezreal because W is on a HIGH CD, HIGH MANA COST, AND CANT BE USED TO FARM
Sheen makes your Q stronger+ its already on a low CD and low mana cost
When you get your Hat and lich bane you will be very stronk
Stay FAR FAR away during teamfights, you are similar to twisted fate
Part of the reason I take all the armor pen buffs and runes is because Lich Bane procs your AP as physical damage, so if you want all that damage to count you'll need some ArPen. I know the tooltip doesn't state that's physical damage, but I experimented and it is indeed physical. So magic pen will not make Lich Bane proc stronger.

You also mentioned stacking Archangel staffs in your edit. This is a retarded idea. Thats taking no survivability and no utility. You're dead before you do ANYTHING.

 
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Dr Page ?? Senior Member
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really to make AP viable 2 changes would help. Let W work live Anivia's Q without the stun, so it does a bit of damage for passing over minions. And make E prioritize champs.
Neither one of these is ever going to happen. Phreak has spoken on the subject and will never let them do this.

W will be overpowered getting all those passive stacks from minions as well as damaging them. That, or the tooltip will be far too HUGE explaining why it doesn't gain passive stacks or do full damage to minions.

Ezreal fires a wave of energy in a line. Any enemy champions it passes through are dealt magic damage and have their attack speed slowed for 5 seconds, while any allied champions it travels through have their attack speed increased for 5 seconds. Additionally, any enemy minions in the path also take XX%(+XX AP) magic damage. Ezreal doesn't gain any stacks for any minions the ability hits.

I think it's just a tad too complicated. Either that, or if it hit minions it's going to get a reduced damage amount for each enemy it touches, just like his ultimate, and I say NO GO on that. That would SUUUUUUCK.

Phreak also likes the E just the way it is. He calls it a skillshot itself because you have to use it properly to get it to hit who you want. Sometimes that means waiting until the person you are chasing clears the minion wave before using it. I agree on both points with the Reds: don't make W hit minions, don't make E prioritize champs.

(Psssst. Just make W heal and I will go away)

 
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DaFront ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Cope Dreamstride View Post
Part of the reason I take all the armor pen buffs and runes is because Lich Bane procs your AP as physical damage, so if you want all that damage to count you'll need some ArPen. I know the tooltip doesn't state that's physical damage, but I experimented and it is indeed physical. So magic pen will not make Lich Bane proc stronger.

You also mentioned stacking Archangel staffs in your edit. This is a retarded idea. Thats taking no survivability and no utility. You're dead before you do ANYTHING.
Hehe was kidding, pretty funny to see some1 get 1000+ ap
"quote real terror"

 
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splontot ?? Senior Member
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I've always hated that tooltip reasoning. It wouldn't be a big deal to add "When hitting minions this spell does reduced damage and doesn't activate Rising Spell Force."

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