tbh if they nerf Sorakas infuse mana gain that only means that soraka can poke even less making the lane even more passive.

Infuse in its current state manages to keep the mana up and leaving a few infuse cooldowns to poke/silence the enemy

If you make her more bursty/buff starcall/nerf infuse managain that just means that Soraka players will use every infuse cooldown to refresh mana.

Starcall will never have a place in botlane since it pushes the lane uncontrollably so you either poke with infuse or bananas. Nerfing the managain on infuse just means you take away Sorakas only means of poking


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against soraka just bring trist or mf and watch them crumble while healdebuffed. W's long cooldown means Soraka cannot heal while healdebuffs are on the target since the chance is very high that even if you do your target will still die

25 mana at lvl 1 is (essentially) a free mana manipulator for her lane. So she's (kinda) starting the game with an extra 475 gold.

I don't really think that's a problem, but I could see why some people would (especially since she can still use that skill offensively if she wants to). It'd be different if the mana regen only affected one person, because now she needs to make a choice between harassing to drain the other supports mana through heals or saving her own mana in case of ganks or whatever.

Someone else mentioned this already, but basically if you're laning against a Soraka is there is very little point in harassing. You'll oom from using your abilities, she'll heal/infuse and then Graves will burst your Vayne down and you are too starved to try and heal her. You're better off (most of the time) just putting points in whatever your lane sustain is and chilling the bush saving your mana.

>Complain Morello doesn't do enough towards game balance.
>Morello posts during his free time to ensure that infinite sustain Soraka/Sona bot lane is being tweaked.
>Call Morello a monster with no concern for game balance and a vendetta against supports.

Yep, definitely browsing GD.

That's a hard bot lane? lol Soraka/Vayne is probably the weakest AD Carry/Support lane in the meta at the moment for the first 6 levels. There are no 2 weaker champs to be paired together, even Ashe is better than Vayne early game.

I'm glad we're seeing these two get changed. Soraka makes bottom lane stale and that makes it boring. Sona could definitely use some changes too.

Before you start saying I don't know what I'm talking about I main support. I just prefer champs like Taric and Janna.

Not sure why this was upvoted, this is bad. This tells me that Morello believes that anybody can play Soraka and the benefits would be roughly equal regardless of skill unless someone can give the benefits AND do tons of damage. Not sure what this means for the Soraka changes, but I fear that it means there is bias ideas towards Soraka in general.

Because the healers generally can be more effective late game with 0CS than the tank heroes. Alistar is the exception to this rule since he's so tanky with his ultimate that he can forgo much of the itemization that other tanks can have to be effective. Generally speaking your tank wants to jungle or top so they can actually get gold, plus their often some strong jungle gankers.

Healing being as strong as it is now is only part of the problem. The bigger issue is 0 CS. There are tons of heroes that would make perfectly viable support style laning partners if the 0CS meta died. As it stands, there are only a half dozen champions that can maintain effectiveness consistantly when so item starved.

No vendetta, I'm tired of having to adapt in both play style and build and everyone else just has to complain on the forums to get their way.

Time to buff Karma.

I myself hate the freaking endless sustain on Soraka bot lane.
Can anyone tell me how is it fun to play a champ that takes no skill what so ever?