Sadly, Trynd has problems now against good teams. Before the nerf, Trynd was actually viable in ranked matches (Not Over powered, but actually strong and had a strong showing), and he still can be viable but now its much, much more difficult to achieve the same results.

The worst counter arguments that I've read at times within the "Trynd is OP" threads were the comments of "Well my Ashe, Caitlyn, Miss Fortune w/ Thornmail doesn't counter Trynd so your assumptions of getting those items are flawed". Firstly, realize the champions that you are using to try and make a case for Trynd beating you. Your using Super Squishes...they can get rolled over by any Champion (Not just Trynd) who has insanely high damage regardless of any defensive options that you have.

If your playing Ashe and your wondering why you can't counter Trynd's damage 1v1, well, Ashe wasn't meant to take damage within the first place, much less fight a Trynd in a 1v1 match up.

What makes me want to slap Riot is that they actually listened to all of these players who lack the knowledge to fight against Trynd. What real logic is there when they nerf Champions that aren't even remotely dominating as others have been, and still are.

Their are far more powerful champions then Trynd prior to the last nerf that they gave him. Sadly however, Riot once again makes me realize why I'm starting to despise the way LoL is patched, and how certain Champions (whom weren't even overpowered to begin with) are being knocked down to either being useless or else mediocrity.

Trynd was a 50/50 character who could either start rolling big, and winning big, or else if your opponents knew how to control your lane, force him to barely get feed, then he becomes very handicapped. I could name off a dozen Champions who were stronger overall champions then Trynd prior to his nerf when he was actually effective. However that list just got bigger now with the current Trynd.

From my personal experience, I'm no LoL Guru, however I have the clear mind to realize during my time of play, and experience that Trynd was one who either one big or lost hard. He only truly steam rolled over players/teams who lacked the knowledge to fight him.

Players prior to complaining obviously lack the knowledge to push him out of feed, don't have consistent lane control and tries to do the impossible with 1v1 situations vs Trynd when your a super squishy, even though Trynd was built to destroy super squishy Champs.

Just watch people, Trynd will receive a nerf again because you'll have Angry players who'll once again still complain and Riot will once again give the go to tweak Trynd again for the worst. All I say is, anymore nerfs to Trynd and you minus will remove him from the game, because obviously he's too "OP" and cannot be countered.

While I agree that Tryn is a pubstomper in the best case scenario, I don't agree with you about him being bad for the game. PvP games should NOT be balanced around newbies. I've seen a lot of MMO's turn bad because the devs inevitably catered to the whinings of **** players, changed the mechanics of the game around to make it easier, and lost a lot of their players as a result. Newbies are not that important. The continued success of a competitive game is defined by the veterans that genuinely want to compete and improve the community by adding a high standard of skill to the playerbase.

The underlying truth behind every "NERF THAT GUY" thread in every game, ever, is due to that fact that MOST people in the world are not emotionally mature enough to handle losing in a video game.

Weak players are expected to improve simply by virtue of playing the game more.

MOBA's are NOT easy, and catering to bad player will leave all but a few characters useful in higher levels of play.

This guy is a senior member ???? pffft

The reason Tryndamere QQ will never go away is his Ult and the fact that he gets more free damage steroids than ANY OTHER CHAMP IN GAME

Even if nerfed to the ground from a competitive viewpoint (and at the moment he's actualy prety overall viable in the right circumstances) the average (50% margin) player (remember 1200 Elo is the top 25% and that's considered BAD) will not be able to handle him and will QQ.

Same issue with Xin sadly.

Trynd is fine. If you can't counter him or don't have a counter to him on your team, that's your fault.
I mean, if Grasshyren can counter him with JANNA, then why can't you counter him with anyone else?
It's ludicrous.

Umm, he has 35% Crit and 25-60 AD.
Yi has 80% AS and 70 AD (105 if you do it just right).
Xin Zhao has 75 AD for 3 attacks that end with a hard CC, 80% AS that lowers the cooldown of his other skills every auto attack, and an ultimate that makes him tanky AND deal %CHP damage.
Hell, Mundo gets better steroids than Tryndamere. +100 AD, +1 per 1% HP missing, 35% CC reduction, AoE DoT and a huge MS buff, as well as a spammable single target slow.

I can't think of many champions who have steroids that are weaker steroids than Tryndamere.

man like I mained trynd for a long time, from like level 4 when I got him till well after I hit level 30. And since I played him so much, go figure I never had any trouble. Granted when a tryn JUST gets away I rage as much as the next guy, but who doesn't rage when they don't quite get a kill. I miss the good ol days before he became like flavor of the year and only a few people played him at level 30 =(.

O well.

Well let them whine all they want. In the end even after nerf they will cry for more nerfs until hes completely useless. I wonder what President Tryndamare will say to Morello for nerfing him several times already.

Trynd is a pub-stomper champion IMHO and being that a large part of the LoL community plays pub games, it would make sense people would ask for nerfs. His damage ramps up during a teamfight and he can save him self from near death, but does have counters (the main ones would be an organized team, heavy AP burst and DoTs, and all types of CC).

I believe he as a champion is not OP (though one of the best carries in the game) and is around where he needs to be in the current with slight changes here and there to help keep him in check.