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View Poll Results: Which matchmaking 'issue' is the most important to you? (See post for more details!)
1) AFKs in Champion Select Lobby 4,687 36.98%
2) Duo-Queue Elo Disparities in Ranked 909 7.17%
3) Skilled Ranked Players in Normal Modes 601 4.74%
4) Premade Matching 633 4.99%
5) Transitioning from Normal to Ranked Mode 1,279 10.09%
6) Free to Play Champions in Ranked Mode 791 6.24%
7) Random Champions in Ranked Mode 627 4.95%
8) Provisional Matches in Ranked 645 5.09%
9) Duo Queue Prevalence in Ranked 384 3.03%
10) Level Disparities 581 4.58%
11) Team Margin of Victory 1,538 12.13%
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What do you mean by higher measure of success? We do find that currently the best metric for success is the Elo difference between Duo-Queuers. If the difference is small, they tend to win more games. If the difference is large, they lose more games. The Elo difference is more important than the actual range of the Duo-Queuers.
Could you elaborate on what you find large and small differences. I don't often play with Z00mm3rr so our elo tends to drift at times. So we've had times that our elo was about exactly the same and we had time we had about 150 elo difference. Is that still a small amount of elo range?

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Could you elaborate on what you find large and small differences. I don't often play with Z00mm3rr so our elo tends to drift at times. So we've had times that our elo was about exactly the same and we had time we had about 150 elo difference. Is that still a small amount of elo range?
I can give exact numbers at this time, but yes, you're still in the range where you see some small benefits to Duo Queuing.

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06-11-2012

Lyte, do you think its possible for summoners with only two rune pages to be matched together? It's very limiting to a team when someone can only fulfill two roles proficiently.

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06-11-2012

Also thanks for putting up with us.

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I can give exact numbers at this time, but yes, you're still in the range where you see some small benefits to Duo Queuing.
do u think to remove duo or get some restriction for duo players, lets say only 100 elo difference ?

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What do you mean by higher measure of success? We do find that currently the best metric for success is the Elo difference between Duo-Queuers. If the difference is small, they tend to win more games. If the difference is large, they lose more games. The Elo difference is more important than the actual range of the Duo-Queuers.
Does this mean you'll possibly instigate a rule you can only duo queue with someone within a moderate range of yours?

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1 screen with unskiled team
2 duo on bot, 0 cover jungle 0 poll ( almost 300 elo difference )

once again i'm unlucky with teams

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What do you mean by higher measure of success? We do find that currently the best metric for success is the Elo difference between Duo-Queuers. If the difference is small, they tend to win more games. If the difference is large, they lose more games. The Elo difference is more important than the actual range of the Duo-Queuers.
Hi Lyte,

I meant if both players were above 1900 did they have a higher winrate than duo queuers below 1900.

I guess by your metrics and my question.. almost all people duo queueing over 1900 are within a 'small range' of each other. But not sure that entirely answers my question. Thank you either way.

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Does this mean you'll possibly instigate a rule you can only duo queue with someone within a moderate range of yours?
Possibly. I'm working on some tweaks to how Duo-Queues are matched, and we'll see what happens with those changes first before considering Duo-Queue Elo range restrictions.

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Possibly. I'm working on some tweaks to how Duo-Queues are matched, and we'll see what happens with those changes first before considering Duo-Queue Elo range restrictions.
tweaks duo hmm to be fair i dont think its good idea, i think u should consider removing duo from ranked.

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