okay, let's start this
Dear Lyte,
you completely left out the biggest issue that lol has.
It is actually that big, that people are spamming since 3 months in
a thread of OVER 184 PAGES that Riot fixes this.
You know exactly what I mean.
You know it, and you ignore it, like everyone at Riot does.
The normal draft premade picking order problem (funny word isn't it? Let's call it the NDPPOP for now).
At first, let me tell you how much I respect what you are doing. This here, this survey, your questioning and try to understand the communities problems, this great.
What am I talking about, THIS IS AWESOME!
You show that there are still people at Riot who care, there are still people who not just randomly open threads which handle of things like pictures of ones cats.
I also know that you are fairly new to Riot, and that you are ambitious.
As more does it break my heart that I have to be mean to you now.
Please don't take it all too personal, but I will have to use quite some language now, because it seems to be the only language that Riot employees understand.
Please forgive me.
(also sorry for the excessive use of caps, it seems to be needed to gain at least any attention at all in this mass of drowning passengers of the sinking riot-ship here)
WE ARE MAD.
THE NORMAL DRAFT PROBLEM (the NDPPOP) is still here.
It is still here after more than three months. It is still here after we heard it gonna get fixed. It is still here after thousands and hundreds of players said that it is the worst issue of lol of all times and you still took no action.
Still, you completely ignore the problem, like it wouldn't be there.
Still, you ignore questions about it, you ignore the spamthread, you ignore thousands of players, you ignore something that is right up your nose.
Still, you just talk about completely irrellevant stuff compared to this problem.
Still, you don't even dare to include this problem into the poll, because you KNOW that EVERYONE will only vote for this one.
If you still didn't get for whatever reason why this problem isn't that big (which for gods sake I don't hope), then let me explain why it completely screws up MY WHOLE GAMING EXPERIENCES WITH LOL.
Since some months I started to play occassionally ranked. It was fun, it is interesting to see yourself climb the ladder and meeting other players who try to play competitively as well. The PROBLEM: While I am good at support, jungle and ad-carry, I could be a lot better and especially I suck at solo-top and mid, I need a lot of training there.
Now, where should I train myself for ranked? Do you know an answer?
Oh, Riot made a normal draft mode that WAS INTENDED TO BE THERE TO TRAIN FOR RANKED DRAFT MODE.
Hey, I bet I can train my solo-top and my mid roles there!
I bet people there CARE for counterpicking!
I bet I can try to train my BANS and learn HOW TO COUNTERPICK!
....Oh, wait a second......
Oh, I SEE THAT ALL I CAN PLAY THERE IS AD-CARRY OR SUPPORT!
Oh, what is the reason for this?
Why am I period 4th or 5th pick?
OH, the reason is that you get only matched with premades and premades
EVER get the first picking orders.
But hey, premades surely are that clever, intelligent and experienced that they won't take solo-top and mid as first roles which are the easiest to counter?
Right? RIGHT?
Oh, **** no, looks lie 90% OF ALL TIMES the premades pick solo top first WITHOUT EVEN THINKING THAT THEY CAN GET COUNTERPICKED.
Why is that so? Why can't they use their super experience, that surely is as high as yours?
Oh, you say they are WAY under your elo because they are a three man premade?
You says that
PREMADES ONLY PLAY NORMAL DRAFT TO BAN HEROES THEY HATE AND DON'T CARE ABOUT PICKING TACTICS; AND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLAY SUPPORT OR AD-CARRY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PLAY SUCH DIFFICULT ROLES?
Holy ****, what you say.
So, does that mean I can use normal draft to train myself in the roles I am bad with and to generally become a better player?
NO!
If you didn't get it, I've seen a lot of people here talking about how long they have to wait when they play in a premade at normal draft to finally play because everyone the last player dogdes.
WHAT YOU THINK IS THE REASON FOR THIS?
The answer, the reason are we, the absolutely, completely piss*d-off solo normal draft players.
We are piss*d on you premades, we are p*ssed to play only what you want, we are p*ssed that you always force us into the support or ad-carry role, we are pissed that you premades don't care about picking tactics, we are piss*d that you premade people screw up games by picking easy to counter champions, we are p*ssed that you premades ban champions which are easy to counter or forget to ban important heroes, we are piss*ed that you are 3 times lower in gaming experience than us, we are piss*ed that you play normal draft only for fun, while some of us want to use it to train for the ranked gaming mode.
How do you fix this?
BY MAKING THE PICKING ORDER OF NORMAL DRAFT COMPLETELY RANDOM; FOR ALL 5 PLAYERS OF TEAM; DISREGARDING IF THEY BELONG TO A PREMADE OR NOT
It's so easy.
It's so fast.
And yet...
And yet you still didn't do it.
And yet you still give a complete sh*t about the community and just ignore the issue.
I have made a lot of negative experiences with RIOT, but this one takes the cake. This one is the pinnacle of the iceberg. I've seen how Riot screwed up so many things, promised us better champion models, a new map, countless improvements, but I have never seen how they ignored big issues like this one.
I have never gotten really dissapointed by Riot by now.
This issue, that it is still not fixed, it shows me only one thing.
That Riot doesn't give a **** about their players.
You know how I feel? I feel betrayed. I feel raped. I feel robbed.
And yet...
And yet Riot ignores this problem.
So I ask you Lyte, I beg you, I pray for you, I sincerely hope for you:
That this issue is just not listed because it will get fixed soon!
If this isn't the case, if I am right about that Riot just ignores that issue, if I am right with thinking that Riot is just a bunch of gaming nerds without even the slightest clue about how to run a business and how to support a marketing group, then I will tell you what will happen:
This thread will get spammed.
This thread will get completely spammed with questions above questions about this issue, wich rage comments, hateful words, and finally with players leaving lol and completely switching to a game which makes practically everything better in terms of player support that Riot, DOTA2.
It still buzzles my mind how you can ignore this, I just don't get, you must loose thousands of players due to this, yet you give a ****.
After this thread is spammed to oblivion and back, what do you think will happen after this.
New threads will be opened. Many.
This shouldn't be a menace, but this will happen, you know and I know.
People will spam and spam and spam, and ask why Riot doesn't fix this.
Because spamming seems to be only possiblity to reach something in this forum, it is sad, but it is true.
And everyone involved in this issue will loose their face.
And I will give this game two thumbs down and switch to Dota2 which does everything in terms or matchmaking and player support hundred a times better. And I won't be the only one.
Riot, you disappointed me.
Sincerely, a pissed of normal-draft player, one under thousands.
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In my last update, I mentioned that the bug is harder to fix than expected.
