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inFe eD ?? Senior Member
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04-26-2012

100% fine as long as the two remaining champs are a serious AD threat, and one of the AP champs goes bottom. Full AD teams get shut down a lot easier than full AP teams do, which is why you generally see more AP champs picked for competitive SR teams than AD ones, with the vast majority of the AD damage output left up to one carry.

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Originally Posted by ZenithZephyr View Post
Would you play a summoner's rift game with 3 ap casters?
I take it you've never seen the double WotA AP carry mid/top strategy that dominated the scene for awhile.

 
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Originally Posted by Jiggleweed View Post
AD champions have hard stuns as well.. and they can apply it snare on hit. The problem is that you can't keep 4 champions away from you as a strategy, eventually you will get overrun and when it comes down to a straight fight the AP heavy team always loses out.. especially end game when most ad champions get somewhat tanky as well. The turret diving power of AD champions is much greater than that of AP champions too.
You realize that AD champs usually have very short stuns. 1 second stuns, Pantheon, Riven is like 0.5 second, AP champs have 1.5 - 3 second stuns. Its just that most AP players never bother going tanky is why you think having 3 is bad. Most good AP players end up stacking enough armor/hp to survive a fight and wrecking you in the face after they get enough damage items.

 
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TEEAHMAT TOOSDEY ?? Senior Member
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I wouldn't mind a team that looked like Malzahar, Warwick, Ryze, Jax and Kog'Maw.
AP malz... lol

 
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04-26-2012

Unless that tanky ap your talking about is maokai, one of the best defenders in the game imho. Im quite happy to have 2 ap teammates and a mao building ap tank.

 
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jars ?? Senior Member
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I have had some games with 3 ap based champs and one ad. I ended up being a superstar because nocturne vs people forced to build mr = lol

 
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Xhyros ?? Senior Member
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04-26-2012

Having 3 squishy AP champs all with good hard CCs and damage = no clear target. No clear target + high burst + hard CC = very good offense. What's that saying about the best defense?

 
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Degnared ?? Senior Member
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04-27-2012

Just throwing my two cents in, even though it's starting to sound like a parrot chorus...

I think it can work, especially if one of those AP champs is bot. Even if you end up with 3 AP top, it CAN work if you have 2 AP carries (Cass, Brand, Ziggs, Ahri etc.) and an AP tank, along with a major AD threat (Jax, Vayne, Ezreal, etc.) Sending 3 AP carries top is probably not a good idea, mainly because AP carries don't scale as well with items as other champions. Your 4th top champ either has to be an AD threat (so you have no tank) or a tank (so they stack MR and you lose, badly).

People complain about AP carry itemization on Crystal Scar, but the game was purposefully designed this way. The reason the mid lane AP carry is dominant in SR is because AP carries scale best with LEVELS, and you'll never get a big experience advantage on Crystal Scar.

 
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lbgsloan ?? Senior Member
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Three AP champions is generally a mistake unless one AP is a tank. Generally any Dominion team should be two sources of AD, two sources AP, and whatever bottom wants to play. Any 4-1 mix is usually going to fail, as the opposing team can just ignore/burst down the lone damage type to remove it from the equation. Much worse if the only AP on the team is bottom.

 
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smXho ?? Senior Member
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04-27-2012

I am thinking Singed, Kass and Cass

They seem to do alright

 
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Originally Posted by Degnared View Post
People complain about AP carry itemization on Crystal Scar, but the game was purposefully designed this way. The reason the mid lane AP carry is dominant in SR is because AP carries scale best with LEVELS, and you'll never get a big experience advantage on Crystal Scar.
yes, the game is designed for SR. it is painfully obvious that Riot balances around SR, and not Dominion, unfortunately.

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