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High Elos, can you give me advice? Flash vs. Ghost on midlane.

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DoctorMcPain ?? Senior Member
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04-30-2012

It's just my personal preference, but since the range nerf I've come to like Flash less and less, even though I understand how strong it is etc.

I already run Ghost on 90% of my top lanes and I love Ghost because of the maneuvrability, kiting potential, shorter cooldown, unit-walking, etc. I often use Ghost on carries too.

So I kind of want to try Ghost in midlane as a substitute for Flash and I'm trying to understand what to expect from both junglers and lanes and if that's viable at all. I tend to ward a LOT and pretty deep and I have good positioning. I'm an aggressive player, I like pushing / pressuring a lot and invading jungle to steal stuff.

Thoughts? Anyone here who runs Ghost mid in high Elo? Anything I can use the spell for as a midlane (something I don't know) ?

 
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FowD8 ?? Senior Member
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04-30-2012

ghost is outdated, there's way too many CCs that completely nulify ghost, you're better running ignite/flash and exhaust/flash... ghost is kind of a low-teir summoner unless you have some sort of way to cleanse or tenacity ability

 
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Frolossus ?? Senior Member
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04-30-2012

always flash

flash to escape ganks
flash to catch people out of position
flash to dodge other peoples ults
flash initiate onto them
flash to be a legit kill threat in lane

 
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always flash

flash to escape ganks
flash to catch people out of position
flash to dodge other peoples ults
flash initiate onto them
flash to be a legit kill threat in lane
My point is, I feel like I do all of the above better with Ghost, especially with the roster of champions I play.

I'm thinking about switching to Ghost because I'm happening to go like "dang it, I wish I had Ghost here" a lot lately.

 
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Emofreezer ?? Senior Member
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04-30-2012

Everyone will always say Flash regardless of the circumstances.

Although (Low Elo, woo) I say Ghost against Udyr because of his soft gap closer.

By the way, some champions don't use Exhaust OR Ignite just because of their damage types (Xerath's range makes Exhaust and Ignite a moot point; he shouldn't be in range when he's dedicating for a kill)

 
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FowD8 ?? Senior Member
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My point is, I feel like I do all of the above better with Ghost, especially with the roster of champions I play.
unless that roster include the likes of mundo/alistar/singed (all cleansing or high tenacity abilities)... flash is better than ghost any time of the day because of reason i already stated

 
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Everyone will always say Flash regardless of the circumstances.

Although (Low Elo, woo) I say Ghost against Udyr because of his soft gap closer.
Yeah that's why I'm trying to gather info from high elo players who actually think about stuff.

 
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FowD8 ?? Senior Member
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and to add... flash isn't a, "****, I"M GETTING GANKED, FLASH FLASH FLASH!!!!!!111oneoenoen" ability, you have to use it smart, and not spam it right away (which is starting to sound like what you're doing). you need to use it intelligently.

e.g. you're getting ganked, u run to a wall to flash over, but you don't flash right away, you let them think you're going to so they try to cut you off by going behind the wall, meanwhile, you just walk in the opposite direction and didn't waste your flash at all

 
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nanana kas ?? Senior Member
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My point is, I feel like I do all of the above better with Ghost, especially with the roster of champions I play.

I'm thinking about switching to Ghost because I'm happening to go like "dang it, I wish I had Ghost here" a lot lately.
why dont you just try it out then? I for one think ghost is useless on most champs i play. I dont ever go anywhere and get slowed off the bat. I also tend to randomly use it just to get somewhere. I mostly play AP mid or AD bot. Flash certainly is the way to go in my opinion on those. I tend to be offensive and flash is rlly good for that.

but if you work well with ghost then use it? Maybe you handle ghost like no other. Just try it out.

 
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and to add... flash isn't a, "****, I"M GETTING GANKED, FLASH FLASH FLASH!!!!!!111oneoenoen" ability, you have to use it smart, and not spam it right away (which is starting to sound like what you're doing). you need to use it intelligently.

e.g. you're getting ganked, u run to a wall to flash over, but you don't flash right away, you let them think you're going to so they try to cut you off by going behind the wall, meanwhile, you just walk in the opposite direction and didn't waste your flash at all
lol why are you trying to teach me how to use Flash.

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