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Ryze: Spell flux unintentionally useless?

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Sturmhard ?? Senior Member
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05-02-2012

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Originally Posted by Skorge987987 View Post
Farming, synergy with ult AoE, and teamfight domination. At close quarters, you can bounce it onto one person multiple times. They also just increased its damage. How is it useless..?
teamfight domination?

lol?

with E?

close quarters before lategame?

are you for real?

 
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nihaomaxiexie ?? Senior Member
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05-02-2012

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Hitchen1 ?? Senior Member
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05-02-2012

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Originally Posted by Yamazaru90 View Post
What I dont get is the lack of damage on Spell Flux compared to Fiddle's Silence considering it does the same thing except instead of a silence it LOWERS MR! I mean what kind of sense does that make? Especially considering the fact that he needs more damage to get the job done imo. But what do I know Im not even a Ryze player.
Champions are balanced around their whole kit, not a single ability.

 
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xGvPx ?? Senior Member
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05-06-2012

Yeah the slowness of his spell flux makes him feel less useful. Who cares about the increase in range and mana ratio if you aren't going to hit the enemy champion?

Ryze can't farm with his E until he gets the tear or some considerable mana regen. Using your abilities to farm prior is just a waste of mana. I'd use E as a low damage poke before the changes and I could do that because the enemy had no time to move out of range. Now spell flux moves like Ryze's grandma.

Just doesn't feel right for his kit. He's supposed to be a burst mage. The addition of an active speed increase on his ult is pretty useless in most situations as well because you'd rather keep the ult for farm/team fights and the speed itself is hardly noticeable because during team fights you pretty much tank during the duration of your ult, you don't move. Having to choose whether to use his ult to run or tank is interesting, I guess, but meh.

If they felt Ryze was too tanky they should have just changed the ratios, not the abilities. If their aim was to get Ryze players to play less tanky to do more damage then they didn't have to reduce the range of his Q etc. and kill his ability to mid lane even more.

 
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Player5xx ?? Junior Member
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05-21-2012

i remember back 2 reworks ago when ryze was a true burst mage and e was the first thing you took and you threw it in a minon wave and it would work its way back and hit the enemy champion all the time. yesterday the enemy mid was standing in a circle of 3 melee and 3 caster minons in a standard wave and ryze e is now supposed to prioritize enemy champions. i threw it at a front melee minon and the thing bounced in a mother ****ing circle around the enemy champion touching all the minons but not her. i swear i wish i recorded it its ****ing bull****. spell flux will do ****ING ANYTHING to avoid bouncing on an enemy champion

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