I cant believe that, it was the first time its ever happened to me and its mad me so mad I have needed to vent and seek help here.

here i was, carring the !@#$ out of mid with vik, 7/1/0, and my team just keep dieing, they say to each other " hey at 20 we surrender"..... we were only 1 turret down and i was holding there inter team back...

AND THEY SURRENDERED, i pleaded, the other team felt sorry for me but no, they had made up their minds, they were !@#$%^& backing out.

This has ruined my entire appeal for random quing, and I don't think im the only one.

Yes i get that its not a perfect system and 70% of the time it works as intended... but i cant help but feel that a team surrender needs to be a team choice... as in 100% of the team need to give in, otherwise its just not fair.

I always have the opposite problem, those guys that just refuse to surrender.
100% vote would just make that worse unfortunately.

And as i said i get that, and there really isnt a perma fix... it was just that it was so demeing to be forced to give up.. thats not fun for anyone.

most people surrender too soon IMO. I sort of agree with the OP here.

I feel your pain...

But making it 100% just leaves WAY too much room open for trolls.

It's a majority vote (80% for 5 people, 75% for 4 people)...that's all that is needed.

If 4 people don't want to play anymore there's no reason for 1 person to ruin THEIR experience. Why is yours more important than the experience of 4 people?

I really think they need to revamp the system as a whole. 4-1 is fine.

BUT they need to look at ways to make it easier to get out of stupid games.

ie someone dced from start of the game? surrender time down to ten minutes
if somone dc within the first 15 minutes for longer than 5 minutes then you can surrender immediately.
if someone has not purchases a single item 5 minutes into the game, you can surrender.


Things like this to end stupid games much sooner

Here's the problem, as I see it; far to many people aren't playing their current match primarily because they see it as a fun challenge, they see it as a chore. This is unfortunate because they are frantically trying to rush to level 30 , or get more points or something else that's petty.

The thing i wonder is, what happens when they REACH level 30 and join a ranked match ? When all they ever know is :

" Oh no, we aren't lucky enough o be facerolling the enemy within 18 mins so there's no point to continuing, because all its going to be from here on in is a slight struggle, or even a nice challenge , or just a little bit harder than taking a piss."

Those ARE the GOOD games in my opinion.

!!!!!!!!!***IMPORTANT****!!!!!!!!!!
Of course im not talking about when you have an AFK or a DC, or on rare ocassions the very, VERY bad player, like someones noob cousin using their account, or something else adversely variable that goes wrong.

The worst , though I'd say these are the extreme pussies who refuse to play because you wont quit at 20 mins or w/eva JUST because your team just got triple killed..
As Iv said before Grow some balls, learn to play the **** game, stop ruining LOL for all us that like to have fun games , that are a good, even challenge.
Have some respect..
Or just uninstall now because you're gonna have your ASSES HANDED to you @ level 30, then stop playing cause "You're sick of LoL now", and consequently just made it 50 times longer for any of US to get to 30. in the long period of time that you spent sucking at a game you did'nt ever care to learn how to play properly...
Hell, 2 games ago the enemies Mid was disconnected for the first 4 to 5 mins of the game, when he reconnected, Me(mid) and a WW(jungler) stood down and let him have mid till he was level 6. And we didn't even jump him, we came up to his face from behind our minions, JUST so he could see that we were going to attack him from now...
Once again , learn some respect..

Long story short = You fast-track it to level 30, then turn around and cry that the players on ranked are crazy insane immortal god players because you never really learned how to play LoL.
Then you stop playing anyway because of that.

Stop wasting everybody's time and just uninstall LoL now.

go to Control Panel> Programs: Uninstall a program> League of Legends> click on Uninstall (on top) or Uninstall (with right click)

Because, its becoming increasingly popular that people are hitting 'yes' to surrender JUST because it came up on their screen and they THINK that the person who clicked it, has some elusive clairvoyance into the game's outcome. When Its obvious they're surrendering ONLY because they're not clearly steamrolling the enemy @ 20mins mark or earlier.

The reason I say people only click it just because it is there, is that you could take that same percentage figure you used for the vote majority and easily consider that the level where sheep mentality resides in the fleeting minds of the majority populous.

The other pattern I ALWAYS see is that when one of these loosers starts dying, they start typing ... and what they type is sore looser winging whining crying krap, or slandering someone else to try and highlight their minor mistakes in an attempt shroud their own terminal incompetence. Then, MY level of gameplay is compromised because, (unless I'm gaining uber power and i KNOW it wont matter) I usually start typing; racking my brains for the right key phrase that might bring us all back to fighting again. Conclusively If we end up loosing anyway, then I hear everything and anything blamed for the lost it except the real reason, is because everyone was typing detrimental 'The game is lost' lies, most the game and not leveling!!

its not fair.

I say screw their experience, read my post in this thread..
LoL's better off w/out them, and at this point id say LoL would be better off without surrender as the sheep majority has ruined it for the few(as the way world).

I reckon at least they should take it away for a while , like taking candy away from a naughty child.