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Why take Varus over any other AD carry?

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dirtpoor ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

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Unless he's way different than on the PBE.. I think that's backwards. His strength is zoning and poking early game.

Lategame the relatively weak steroids + only average auto range + no escapes makes him hurt a bit.

IMO.
Has a passive that grows with each kill/assist.
AoE slow that can pop his stacks multiple times.
Mass target ult for those commited team fights.
Great harrass.

Ya... Real bad in team fights man. /sarcasm

 
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Hige ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

stacking CCs and grievous wounds on enemies ._. also I dunno why but I think he can work as the only ranged dps support...

 
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Has a passive that grows with each kill/assist.
AoE slow that can pop his stacks multiple times.
Mass target ult for those commited team fights.
Great harrass.

Ya... Real bad in team fights man. /sarcasm
His passive stacks? I was pretty sure it is just a flat 40% and not a stacking 40% per kill/assist.

Easily avoided ult for those committed team fights that still allows the enemy ranged and caster champions to attack your mercilessly.

AoE is alright, but the radius is pretty small.

The harass is great, if they don't dodge it and he doesn't trade as well with auto attacks.

 
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Rilsaur ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

why play anyone but mundo


(FOR FUN, JACKASS)

 
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DarkDestiny ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

The same reason one picks cait, a really strong early game which boosts up his late game. His harass is really good and his poke is AMAZING early game and scales all the way into late game.

His ult and Ashe ult are completely different and not comparable at all. Ashe ult is a stun/aoe slow that requires a skill shot.

His ult is an aoe root that requires a build up time. He also has an aoe heal reduction which completely screws supports like Soraka that have really strong burst healing. It also doubles as a slow.

His w also does damage based on % of health and its really easy to stack and spend. The damage is insane if you use his kit correctly.

I'm not saying hes the best but there are definite reasons to play him over other AD's. His kit is completely unique to any other AD and thats reasons enough.

 
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Sniklfrites ?? Member
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05-08-2012

575 range

 
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Eliroo ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

He has some good poke as well, that definitely shouldn't be neglected.

 
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Master Age ?? Senior Member
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05-08-2012

He's actually a pure hybrid champ, really... more akin to Poppy. You CAN build him pure AD but the some of his kit is lacking. Same for pure AP...

So, go with the part of his kit that is universal: Attack Speed Procs. Sorcerers, Malady, Wit's End, MBR, Zekes, Gunblade.
w/sorcerers, the passive makes it hit 2.5 with any kill with the right runes/masteries.
Sorcerers/Malady/Masteries give decent enough MPen. cooldown from zekes, sustain from zekes/gunblade, defense from wits/MBR. Ratios are high enough that he can pull this off without hurting his team.

He's essentially Twisted Fate with a longer range mixed with a bit of Poppy itembuilding and Twitch positioning. Completely valid in my book.

 
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Javin ?? Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Paintballreturns View Post

So maybe i'm just looking at this wrong. Can anyone enlighten me?


I can't enlighten you. I would really like to. But you seem to be the kind of person that just attatches to one opinion and that's it. No amount of argument or proof will easily get you to budge an inch.

Advice? Be more open to your world and reduce the cynicism.

 
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dirtpoor ?? Senior Member
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He's actually a pure hybrid champ, really... more akin to Poppy. You CAN build him pure AD but the some of his kit is lacking. Same for pure AP...

So, go with the part of his kit that is universal: Attack Speed Procs. Sorcerers, Malady, Wit's End, MBR, Zekes, Gunblade.
w/sorcerers, the passive makes it hit 2.5 with any kill with the right runes/masteries.
Sorcerers/Malady/Masteries give decent enough MPen. cooldown from zekes, sustain from zekes/gunblade, defense from wits/MBR. Ratios are high enough that he can pull this off without hurting his team.

He's essentially Twisted Fate with a longer range mixed with a bit of Poppy itembuilding and Twitch positioning. Completely valid in my book.
Hrm. I was going to try armor pen AD stack. But I guess ill try him with ginsoo, malady, trinity. (My previous conjecture is just theory.) I unlock Varus in 120 more IP.



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His passive stacks? I was pretty sure it is just a flat 40% and not a stacking 40% per kill/assist.

Easily avoided ult for those committed team fights that still allows the enemy ranged and caster champions to attack your mercilessly.

AoE is alright, but the radius is pretty small.

The harass is great, if they don't dodge it and he doesn't trade as well with auto attacks.
I thought his passive stacked each kill. If its only 1 flat boost I kinda don't like it. If it where to stack then it would add to his "Kill him first in a team fight or else, but good luck getting to him with his range" factor. If its 1 big steriod they should consider chopping it up but giving full stacks TONS of attack speed.