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JustMyBassCannon ?? Senior Member
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05-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Carnack View Post
Most don't get the idea of temporary changes. If they make a change and it's wildly popular Riot will get bawled at by those who think it's overpowered (stealth champs draw this like mad), and if the fixes ever come out and it's a slight nerf people who liked the temporary fix will complain also.

Face it bro if this community was given face and form we'd be a wailing infant.
This is largely due to uneducated complaint, basically players not learning how to play, and then as to the second part, I didn't hear any Shen players complaining that he was nerfed from what his original rework had. Or even that he got nerfed after that once or twice.

There are exceptions, sometimes entire portions of the community, to that rule.

 
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05-17-2012

I know they nerfed eve, but why hate her. I was just playing eve, and I was unstoppable at the end, even against their oracle carriers.

 
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MissCheerilee ?? Senior Member
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05-17-2012

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I know they nerfed eve, but why hate her. I was just playing eve, and I was unstoppable at the end, even against their oracle carriers.
Eve's got the issue of 'you can't just slide into her'. That tends to cause the vast majority of players to not be good at her because they're expecting 'well I can figure out how to play her throughout the game and pull out fine'.

No, Eve pretty much does good at the beginning and pwns later, or falls flat early and has to gank WELL to catch up with her team.

It's like people who complain (they're rare) about Garen because of his late game fall off.

 
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MissCheerilee ?? Senior Member
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05-17-2012

Game 4

Eve (Me), Kass, Sona, Master Yi, Warwick

vs

Irelia, Annie, Wukong, Pantheon, Taric

Personal Results: 9/9/18

Results: Win

Their Irelia quit. We had a good early game (the Sona said she was first time, but I dunno, she supported me and even got a dunk, so, I liked it). My game proceeded to fall off late game, especially because I built AD instead of AP. Our Kass had 700 AP. That was funny. We swept to the nexus.

I'm considering playing an extra game because we probably would have fought them a lot longer if they had all of their team.

Ah well.

The Panth and Irelia we started laning against were smart enough to ward and deny me easy grabs, but, their ward placement wasn't near the bushes (Where I'm more likely to hide), but near the top of the lane. As an Eve, I have come to loathe Purple Wards. They are my death.

 
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05-17-2012

You know there is something wrong with a champion when you should have a 100% chance to kill someone and fail. I had ambushed a lvl 4 cait with like 25% health left and no feed or farm, I had full health and also lvl 4. I ran behind her, slowed and attacked, spammed my Q and hit her with an E. She just stood there and destroy me without moving or worrying. If it was any other champion she'd have died. I did like maybe 20% damage in the 3-4 seconds it took her to rape me. The only difference was that she had an attack speed item and I had boots and pots.

Her basic attacks need some damage buffs.

 
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JustMyBassCannon ?? Senior Member
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05-17-2012

Practicing in bot games...oh god it was horrible.

1/5/10, but a win nonetheless. And I'm pretty sure the bots were actually using pink wards 0.o

 
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MissCheerilee ?? Senior Member
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05-18-2012

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Practicing in bot games...oh god it was horrible.

1/5/10, but a win nonetheless. And I'm pretty sure the bots were actually using pink wards 0.o
SOmetimes they literally attack during stealth with no provocation.

 
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05-18-2012

Match 4.5 (Vs AI)

Eve (me), Riven (My bro) Nasus, Cass (AFK loser) and Shyvana

vs

Trundle, Amumu, Sivir, Zilean, and Vlad

Personal Results: 10/6/23

Results: Win

Notes: We did pretty well, but, I experienced the most horrible late game fall off with Sivir doing like fifty million damage. AD Eve was perfectly capable of pushing a tower with a popped Ult, though...

Also, for some reason, the bots didn't go down to 4 when Cass left.

 
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05-18-2012

Match 4.75 (Non-Eve PVP)

Eve, Leona (me), Kennen, Shyvana, Zilean

vs

Fiora, Jax, Ashe, Cass, Nunu

Personal Results: 8/8/21

Eve Results: 12/10/11

Result: Loss

We had a late game fall off, and our Zilean never built bombs until he had to which was hilariously dumb, but we had the game in our hands until we started losing team fights. We didn't focus Jax nearly enough, and he got to dive on us while we were pushing top and that really lost us the momentum.

 
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05-18-2012

For a stealth-driven champion to be successful, they need to be able to surprise and take down isolated enemies successfully. For me at least, Eve just doesn't have the damage output required to take down anyone. Also, a champion can't be too stealth driven, and should be able to perform in a fight without stealth at least to a certain degree. Twitch, for instance, can teamfight to a moderate level without being stealthed first. Eve just gets cut down the moment she steps in the fight. Finally, Having a spammable ability that does damage is wonderful (think karthus' lay waste), having a spammable ability that is the damage equivalent of being tickled is useless.