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Darius is going to be the most generic champion EVER

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Warscythes ?? Senior Member
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I think Orianna wanted to be a champion actually
Oops.

 
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05-17-2012

have u seen his biceps?

 
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05-17-2012

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Originally Posted by Morello View Post
I know you're mad because we disagree, but trying to point out logical fallacies in materials we've learned from with our mistakes (IE, old champions) isn't constructive.

I'm not going to internet-argue about semantics or try to play "catch the other guy off-guard". If you have a counter-point about this design philosophy or why it doesn't deliver on League player expectations, I'm all ears.
I just want you to release more items and champions to break this terribad meta like you did in the past with Kog and Irelia.

Although I've been seeing A LOT more kill/aggressive lanes bottom lately (Volibur, Blitz, Naut, Leona).

 
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This probably won't get seen but I did want to leave my 2 cents. I respect Morello a lot and I am excited for Darius. But I also have to agree with the OP in a way.

When I laid eyes on the sneak peek for Darius the terms "blood knight", "black knight", or "berserker" did not come to mind. No, what I first thought was that it was a living sion legendary skin. I can't help but explain the feeling of what I think his problem is is reverse omen syndrome.
Think about it... Omen was cancelled because his design was too specifically uniquely niched and it came out all wrong. Darius on the other hand came out too 'right' because his design was too generic.
What differentiates Omen from a jungle mob? Well, what differentiates Darius from any other soldier? To me that's all he looks.
I suppose it would be worth pointing out that Riven pretty much suffered from the same thing, except Riot actually fleshed her out by giving her a tiny ass body and a broken sword (which was their stupidest design yet IMO, and I still despise auto attacking with Riven because it "feels" weak to do it) but nevertheless it made Riven different. Darius doesn't even have a distinguishing feature, even Garen has his Long-scarf-of-badassness.

The final flaw I feel is the release timing. No one is overly hyped anymore because we've now had 3 late champs in a row on irregular patching schedules. And to add insult to that injury we know because of your red post last week (regarding future skin releases with champ releases) that he's only gonna have 1 skin, and everyone knows it will be Crimson Elite.

This doesn't mean he's going to be unfun or bad. His kit looks downright fun as hell. If only the character felt the same way to me :/

PS- I love Riven's voice, story, and playstyle. I just despise her classic skin and broken sword, it makes her feel "bland plus a gimmick"

PPS- I typed this from a 3DS, plz excuse spelling errors, my hand is so cramped right now :X

 
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Darius is totally generic, I don't know how anyone could argue against that.

Varus looks like a 12 year old anime fan's twisted dream, and he's less generic than Darius.

Quoting for truth.

In terms of character concept Darius is basically edgy Garen. Or just plain evil Garen. Still I can't imagine that Riot doesn't know this and Darius will probably sell really well.

 
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excellent post
Why are you using any other riven skin than bunnygirl?

 
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What differentiates Omen from a jungle mob? Well, what differentiates Darius from any other soldier? To me that's all he looks.
This particular point intrigued me as well.

Especially with the amount which Riot stressed this reasoning and them not wanting to repeat it.

 
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if I remember correctly, she was learning to turret dive and there was some malfunction which caused it to kill her.
I consider the malfunction somewhat vague, if they don't expand on it then it will be an asspull. But if they come up with something like a person sabotaged the training ground because he was paid to do so(Maybe Caitlyn's nemesis C") then Orianna can confront the criminal and her decision whether or not to kill him would have a big impact on her humanity etc etc.

See I can make twists out of everything because everything is soooo vague.

 
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I consider the malfunction somewhat vague, if they don't expand on it then it will be an asspull. But if they come up with something like a person sabotaged the training ground because he was paid to do so(Maybe Caitlyn's nemesis C") then Orianna can confront the criminal and her decision whether or not to kill him would have a big impact on her humanity etc etc.

See I can make twists out of everything because everything is soooo vague.
Well the big problem with all this is

Riot doesn't expand the lore that much, or very often

When was the last time you heard anything about Lux's problems about basically being forced to be in the league, or about the feud between warwick and soraka?

 
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I consider the malfunction somewhat vague, if they don't expand on it then it will be an asspull. But if they come up with something like a person sabotaged the training ground because he was paid to do so(Maybe Caitlyn's nemesis C") then Orianna can confront the criminal and her decision whether or not to kill him would have a big impact on her humanity etc etc.

See I can make twists out of everything because everything is soooo vague.
of course, in the end it doesn't matter because Orianna has to decide whether to destroy herself and techmaturgy, fuse all life with techmaturgy, or take control or techmaturgy and hope she can control it enough so that it doesn't destroy mankind later