Originally Posted by BigDaddyRelish
How is Darius anti-fun? Because he kill steals? Great, I WANT him to ks me in teamfights. Because guess what that means, that means we get another huge true damage nuke in the fight when he does it. And more true damage nukes means we are that much closer to winning the teamfight, and possibly the game. I want him to do well and get kills because he scales really well with items, and getting those huge nukes in helps the team as a whole a ton.
I have played with a lot of Darius' in Dom and SR, and it has never gotten to the point where a Darius either on my team or the enemy team kill stole so much that everyone else on his team was starved and couldn't do any damage anymore. I have watched streams with Darius players in them and this has still been the case.
He isn't even the only champ notorious for hogging kills either. His kit isn't necessarily poorly designed either. He has clear exploitable weaknesses that you can abuse to great effect, making Darius situationally amazing. When he gets his opportunity, that's when he becomes big trouble, but if you put him in lane against someone like Swain, Kennen, or Lee Sin, he will get demolished more than just about any champion in the game in that same situation would. And an underfed Darius is one of the most useless champs in the game atm, since he has no way to disengage, is very immobile overall, and has no defensive buff unlike other bruisers, and his only gap closer is a long cd short ranged pull.
When he is doing well though, and Darius' team is doing well to support him and the player is good, he becomes nightmarish. His scaling is crazy good, and he does a ton of damage very quickly. He can dish out a lot of pain since his ultimate refreshes, again, giving his team a huge advantage in a fight. The only problems become cc and kiting, Darius especially is ENORMOUSLY suspect to kiting, even more so than those like Udyr or Volibear. Going against champs like Ezreal or Anivia make it so even a fed Darius has a VERY hard time. But again, if he can get a good angle in and the player is good, and his team can support him, then he WILL eat your entire team.
I think you nailed most of the major points:
- His ult feels bad for players on both sides
- He's extremely 'feast or famine,' dependent on his early snowballing and whether or not he gets the killing blows
How about this one, though?
His W DESTROYS both your movespeed AND your attackspeed. Who else does that? Generally a champion either slows you, forcing you to turn and fight, or your offensive ability, forcing you to run for a bit. Darius destroys your ability to escape OR fight, giving you the option of: Lose. It's comparable to another Irelia.
I can only think of Nunu's ult or Nasus' wither doing both - and one's on a long cooldown, ones why Nasus is so **** powerful bot lane. Neither is a good model, and neither has the cooldown OR strength that Darius' does.
It's just... little things like this that make me think Darius doesn't hold up to Riot's touted 'much improved design' for this year.