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Ryze masteries: 9/0/21 or 9/21/0?

 
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silenthunt ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

I've traditionally gone 9/0/21 but I'm considering giving a defensive build a try since nothing from the utility tree is really 'must have' except the cooldown reduction which I can also get from the defensive tree, and the loss of mana and mana regen can be managed with careful mana management or blue buff. What do you think?

 
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Issiildur ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

Movement speed

 
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Heroic Cheese ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

21-0-9 with new ryze. just keep getting the bluebuffs unless someone on your team really needs, and youll increase you damage by more then going 9-x-x would

 
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CryinOnionKnight ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

I always max the 21 into defense. The other 9 can go utility (if you need ms and are worried about being kited) or offense (need early spell pen for mad deepz)

 
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silenthunt ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

bump

 
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Anonymous Josh ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

I go 9/0/21 most of the time so I can hit level 2 before my opponent, and then level 6.

Plus the flat Move Speed, Mana/Level, CDr on summoners, the hp/5 from that mastery, and enhanced Flash are all too good to give up on Ryze.

 
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NoIntestines ?? Senior Member
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06-04-2012

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Originally Posted by Ryze Bot MKII View Post
I go 9/0/21 most of the time so I can hit level 2 before my opponent, and then level 6.

Plus the flat Move Speed, Mana/Level, CDr on summoners, the hp/5 from that mastery, and enhanced Flash are all too good to give up on Ryze.
I agree with this. Between the move speed mastery, move speed quints, and the new ultimate you can zip around a battle pretty well. The defense tree also gives move speed but it's conditional, so I like utility better.

The experience boost is also a bigger deal for Ryze than other mages because of the CDR on his Q and the fact that he does worse levels 1-5 than a lot of common mid lane champions.

 
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06-04-2012

Before you accept these scrubs ideas of Ryze masteries, I have Zombie Ryze.

Go either 9/21/0 or 0/21/9. Choose between dmg and ms, I personally go dmg. Contrary to these derps thinking of stacking ms is a good thing, Ms has diminishing returns. Go here: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Movement_speed
Tl dr, You get Dr at BOTH 415 ms and even more at 490.

You take every single defensive mastery and skip anything else in defense. You also take full out tank runes, no health, just defensives either per lvl or flat. I personally go flat because his early game is horrid, but per lvl would make you a monster late game. Rush Catalyst, ofc getting boots lvl 1. Finish Ninja tabi, then RoA. Depending on how well you're doing and what's going on in the game affects your next item choice.

Are you raping? Another RoA(they stack, ohsnap), Rylais ,or even deathcap may be in order.
These are the items Ryze can easily buy, and do amazing with that you should choose from, depending on your needs:
Banshees Veil, RoA, Deathcap, Ninja Tabi, merc treads, Frozen Heart, Void staff, Will of the ancients, Lich Bane, Hextech Gunblade(if you get lich bane).