Originally Posted by Bloodpaly
Can grab people over walls. And I doubt you calculated in AA resets if Darius times his abilities properly and the fact that Darius doesn't become unscary for 100+ seconds when he gets a kill.
Or how easy it is for a target to have 30% + physical/magical resistance and makes true damage/25% armor pen look much more sexy.
Your right he can grab people over walls if they are within nidalee dash range. He has an advantage their woohoo.
Both of them have 1 aa reset, so thats really not a viable argument.
And I already said Darius is better versus people who are stacking Armor/MR, which doesnt negate the point that Garen is better vs. People stacking health. Remember (assuming 100 AD on each) Garen has nearly 500 damage more then Darius with out factoring in bonus damage he is practically guaranteed to get
As far him becoming unscary, he is unscary.
Unless he gets that kill, he becomes less scary then Garen do to the fact that he has worse damage, worse CC, and worse tankiness. He is only Scary if gets his kill AND gets it with his ult, which would be fine if he still had the grace period. But with out the grace period the odds of you actually scoring the killing blow in a pitched team fight in time for it to matter (Given your lack of Hard CC and slow @ss attack speed) are close to nil.
Darius Damage Threat with out his ult. 352 base+(2.35 Scale off Bonus AD)
Garen Damage Threat with out his ult. 720 base+(5.6 Scale off Bonus AD, and Additional Damage from Crit % not factored).
With out his ult Darius is terrible, which was why nerfing the refresh grace period completely screwed him. He was already mediocre at best, now he's just bad (unless your bad, in which case he's OMG OP, same as Xin, same as Eve).