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Originally Posted by RiotNome
So would "first ban/second pick" be better than "first ban/first pick"?
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Though I wouldn't be opposed to this change, I don't feel this is the problem. Though funny story (yay story time) about first pick first ban. When it was 4 bans, it was first ban second pick, and my friends and I knew this. When it got switched to 6 bans, my friend and I thought we'd play some ranked TT, and on seeing we weren't first ban, we baited out them not banning tryndamere, only to realize that they had first pick and first ban.
We got stomped by the third highest rated tryndamere in TT at the time.
The problem isn't necessarily who gets first ban, it's more that blue team's picks are imbalanced. It has nothing to do with the ban order.
Whoever gets first pick (regardless of who gets first ban) gets to ban people that counter their play style, and FORCE the second picking team to ban out scary first picks. (Tryndamere and whoever you consider god tier)
So the situation would go like this, in current pick system.
Blue ban: Mundo
Purp ban: Tryndamere
Blue ban: Gangplank
Purp ban: Lee Sin
Blue ban: Jax
Purp ban: Kennen
Blue then instalocks someone like Darius or Yorick, which are very unfortunate to play against in TT. (I believe my team's yorick player has like 80% win ratio in TT with him.)
Then purp gets to pick two people, only knowing that blue picked Darius/Yorick.
So let's say they pick, Renekton and Cass.
Blue now gets to pick two people that counter Ren and Cass, say:
It might as well be blindpick for the first two picks on purple.
Kassadin and Gragas, two people that can severely mess up their ults.
Purple now has ONE champion to attempt to counter either or both of the two.
It might as well be blind pick. "We know they're going to pick tryndamere, we might as well counter for that. Oh look they got two other good champs."
In the situation I propose it would go a bit more like this:
Blue ban: Mundo
Purp ban: Tryndamere
Blue ban: Gangplank
Purp ban: Lee Sin
Blue ban: Jax
Purp ban: Kennen
Blue locks Darius, a very formidable first pick.
Purp locks Shen (Counters his ult quite nicely.)
Blue locks Cassiopeia
Purp locks Gragas
Blue then decides they want hybrid, goes Yorick.
Purp then can choose to counter Yorick, Cass, or Darius, or pick a random champion they feel will complete their team.