Originally Posted by Killrmouse
So, I just wanted to know.. Am I missing something important about these characters? Are they actually really good, but just not used in my elo bracket?
Zilean support is so-so. His lane harrass (which becomes useless with no AP) slow/speed and ultimate are the only reasons you'd choose him.
Karma is mostly viable as a tanky AP utility mid. Try it out.
She's weaker in the support department without any AP, but her kit and Tristana are best friends and can work.
I played 2 Poppy games recently and won both, with me getting stupidly fed and crushing the enemy ADC and APC. It's all about careful laning and farming.
I was AD/Tank Poppy btw.
She's got a really tough lane phase against certain people, and she's slow to farm. Get her past that point without being 0/15/0 and s he is a ton of fun.
Sejuani isn't underpowered or in need of a rework. Tweaking maybe.
She's actually quite strong right now, especially with all the Amumu bans, her kit is essentially the same, except she slows for days.