Originally Posted by SpiderParadox
Long story short, even the "for fun" players want to win. That's the point of the game, they're just not willing to give up their playstyle or invest in the math, calculations, and research it would take to get that good at the game.
Then you don't want to win. Walls are there to keep the people who don't truly want something out.
What you just said, "I want to win but I don't want to do any of the work it requires to be a consistent winner."
I had this conversation maybe 100 times as a raid leader and main tank in WoW. You know what this means? It means that you don't want to ****ing win. You don't care.
You're apathetic. You can say you want to win all you ****ing **** well please, but at the end of the day, when you do ZERO to actually try and win? You obviously don't want it because you display a complete lack of actual desire or drive for it, beyond paying it lip service.