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CDR/Crit Tryndamere build

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Regulas ?? Senior Member
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08-02-2012

Well I had an idea bit ago for trying something different with Trynd.

The concept is that with max CDR your spin has a 5.4 second CD that is further reduced by 2 seconds any time you crit, which along with reduced CDR slow vastly improves your relative mobility. Because of all your abilities you already have decent damage compared to a lot of champions, however now you can basically spin an average of ~3 seconds (as long as you can find things to attack even creeps).

The basic build is:

Ionia's boots + Yommu's Ghostblade + Cloack and Dagger (components purchased according to game progress).
Runes: Crit chance reds and quints, Armor yellows, CD blues
Masteries 21/9/0 taking 4 points in Sorcery and no points in Hardiness.

I've tested it enough to know it works somewhat but not nearly enough to really get an idea of how effective it is.

 
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08-02-2012

I think getting more crit chance and attack speed is better than CDR if you just want to do more damage, since attack speed + crit chance = more crits.

 
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Regulas ?? Senior Member
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08-02-2012

The point isn't for damage, it's for mobility. Trynd already has good damage it's the staying in range part that's the tricky part, most people try to just do as much damage as possible in the few hits they can get, this build instead aims to just stay in range more often.

As far crits go you need to get a crit in the least attacks possible hence why your focusing on crit over attack speed to do this.

 
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08-03-2012

Phantom Dancer solves your mobility problems.

 
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t3hep1cf47m4n ?? Member
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08-03-2012

frozen mallet

gg

 
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Cenerae ?? Senior Member
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08-03-2012

Cloak and Dagger is a bad buy. If you need tenacity, get merc treads. Or just run Cleanse (which is worth consideration on Trynd to counter his natural bane that is Ignite)

Ghostblade isn't a terrible pick for Tryn (but never as first major item), but Ionians is largely pointless. A spin and a slow is enough to get you in range of anyone. By the time you need to spin back out you'll have landed enough crits to do so.

Crit runes aren't worth it either. Pick runes that win you the lane better. You already get plenty of crit chance from his passive, and the Phantom Dancer and Infinity Edge you will get at some point later. And possibly a green elixir. More crit is senseless.

 
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Regulas ?? Senior Member
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08-03-2012

To everyone above, this build is intended for higher skill level play where people know how to kite, dodge, maximize CC etc.

The tactic of trying to just rush at people is entirely insufficient at this level. Linear tactics like MS or forzen mallet are also highly in-effective.

 
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08-03-2012

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Originally Posted by Regulas View Post
To everyone above, this build is intended for higher skill level play where people know how to kite, dodge, maximize CC etc.

The tactic of trying to just rush at people is entirely insufficient at this level. Linear tactics like MS or forzen mallet are also highly in-effective.
I don't know who you're trying to kid, because nobody at a high level of play buys cloak and dagger. Nor do they waste gold on sub-optimal stats, because they actually know how to use their characters properly.

If you're having so much problem staying on a target that you can't even stay in range with a frozen mallet and a phantom dancer, you're definately doing something wrong with your Tryndamere play. In fact, if you're having that much problem staying in range, then having that extra wasted crit and the CDR is irrelevant because you apparently can't hit them in the first place, so how are you going to get faster spin slashes?

 
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08-04-2012

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I don't know who you're trying to kid, because nobody at a high level of play buys cloak and dagger. Nor do they waste gold on sub-optimal stats, because they actually know how to use their characters properly.

If you're having so much problem staying on a target that you can't even stay in range with a frozen mallet and a phantom dancer, you're definately doing something wrong with your Tryndamere play. In fact, if you're having that much problem staying in range, then having that extra wasted crit and the CDR is irrelevant because you apparently can't hit them in the first place, so how are you going to get faster spin slashes?
It's been awhile since I've been so... flabbergasted.... you are aware that Tryndamere is overall a useless hero right now? Or are you at a low enough skill level that people still think he's good there? That he's UP right now is common knowledge. If your unaware of the problems that make him so weak at most levels of play then i don't know why your commenting here.

 
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It's been awhile since I've been so... flabbergasted.... you are aware that Tryndamere is overall a useless hero right now? Or are you at a low enough skill level that people still think he's good there? That he's UP right now is common knowledge. If your unaware of the problems that make him so weak at most levels of play then i don't know why your commenting here.
I'm quite aware that he's generally not considered strong.

His weakness is NOT his inability to reach his targets, however. He can manage that just fine. His actual problem is that he gets focused into his ult immediately on reaching a fight (because you know, melee range), and then someone ignites him 3 seconds later.

Since we're moving on to skill level insults, I ask you, are you at a low enough skill level where you mistakenly believe that wasting gold on CDR to get a spin in 1 or 2 autos quicker is somehow going to make him more powerful than if you'd just spent it on actual damage?

I mean really, he has a gap closer and a decent range slow. He's much better off than someone like Udyr who only gets a bit of movespeed to gap close, and I don't frequently have troubles getting in range to slap people with Udyr. So what exactly are you doing if you have issues closing in?

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