It's as simple as that. The number of viable junglers continues to depreciate because of the fact that tanky, high base damage, double gold/10 stacking junglers exist and frankly, I'm getting rather tired of having to jungle the same people over and over again because of it. Let's have some diversity please.

guess by your name I guess your favorite jungler is Eve?

I actually agree. I gradually migrated to Top lane because the Jungle is just really getting stale. And Top lane is basically a 1V1 minigame after 10 minutes where the better player wins outright. A lot more exciting than the Jungle currently IMO.

It's pretty much true. You take a huge risk playing a jungle like Shaco when you could just pick a tanky aoe jungler that can clear ridiculously fast with just gp10 items and actually be useful lategame. How many games have you had a jungle Lee Sin suddenly turn to custard 15-20 mins in?

hes saying there are tanky junglers with high base dmg and lots of cc who perform adequately while buying philo and hog and becoming tankier compared to other more scale-y junglers (say, Yi, Fiora, Tryn, Shaco, idk) who would actually need to buy dmg, and thus do not get free gold and durability from said items.

basically he's unhappy that every single jungler nowadays is basically a tank. id kind of agree with him. hell even phreak recommended building philo and hog on Diana, the brand new AP jungler. heh.

I would also argue that the repeated nerfs to wriggles had a hand in this, too.

To fix this Riot needs to give junglers a higher gold income. If aj ungler can't build GP/5 they are at a disadvantage.

I completely agree; when 1 item is a general necessity for multiple champions across the board; a change needs to be made on the balance end. They made an effect with HoG; but the change hit supports harder than jungle.

And every time you nerf the gp10s, you're making it way harder for supports to survive than you are making gp10 junglers less viable